Comments on: Another Course on ID http://telicthoughts.com/another-course-on-id/ An independent blog about intelligent design Tue, 07 Oct 2008 06:16:39 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.5.1 By: MikeGene http://telicthoughts.com/another-course-on-id/#comment-13112 MikeGene Sun, 30 Apr 2006 13:16:50 +0000 http://telicthoughts.com/?p=669#comment-13112 Allen: "I believe will ultimately benefit not only evolutionary theory, but also cognitive psychology, <em>evolutionary psychology</em>, and the development of artificial intelligence." I've become somewhat of an amateur evolutionary psychologist myself - <a href="http://telicthoughts.com/?p=83" rel="nofollow">enjoy</a>. Allen: "I believe will ultimately benefit not only evolutionary theory, but also cognitive psychology, evolutionary psychology, and the development of artificial intelligence."

I've become somewhat of an amateur evolutionary psychologist myself - enjoy.

]]> By: David http://telicthoughts.com/another-course-on-id/#comment-13096 David Sun, 30 Apr 2006 04:57:36 +0000 http://telicthoughts.com/?p=669#comment-13096 Allen - You're kidding right? Mao may have said that, but his actions and motives were very different. Good luck with your course. Allen - You're kidding right? Mao may have said that, but his actions and motives were very different. Good luck with your course.

]]> By: Allen_MacNeill http://telicthoughts.com/another-course-on-id/#comment-13080 Allen_MacNeill Sun, 30 Apr 2006 01:31:04 +0000 http://telicthoughts.com/?p=669#comment-13080 Interesting: it looks like Professor Roth's course is surprisingly similar to mine in both approach and coverage (not to mention reading list). Knox College, however, is very different from Cornell, and so it's not particularly surprising that the students who participated in the course were more inclined toward a theological approach. I am very much hoping that my course at Cornell this summer will have the same impact on all of the participants, and that we will all conduct ourselves in as open and respectful a manner as has apparently happened at Knox. This is what academics should be about: presenting all sides of an issue, complete with supporting references and open discussion between all interested parties. I believe that when this is done evolutionary theory comes out stronger than ever, and with some "problem areas" illuminated and addressed. While I do not personally think that ID theory is valid as a scientific enterprise, I believe that it has done a great service for evolutionary biologists by providing a clear demarcation between natural science and "natural theology" (a la Paley, Behe, Dembski, and Johnson). In addition, ID theory has spotlighted a sadly neglected area of evolutionary theory "“ the concept of "teleonomy" and the problem of adaptive teleology "“ in a way that I believe will ultimately benefit not only evolutionary theory, but also cognitive psychology, evolutionary psychology, and the development of artificial intelligence. And so, to quote a well-known "philosopher" of the last century ;-) "Let a hundred flowers bloom and a hundred schools of thought contend!" Interesting: it looks like Professor Roth's course is surprisingly similar to mine in both approach and coverage (not to mention reading list). Knox College, however, is very different from Cornell, and so it's not particularly surprising that the students who participated in the course were more inclined toward a theological approach. I am very much hoping that my course at Cornell this summer will have the same impact on all of the participants, and that we will all conduct ourselves in as open and respectful a manner as has apparently happened at Knox.

This is what academics should be about: presenting all sides of an issue, complete with supporting references and open discussion between all interested parties. I believe that when this is done evolutionary theory comes out stronger than ever, and with some "problem areas" illuminated and addressed. While I do not personally think that ID theory is valid as a scientific enterprise, I believe that it has done a great service for evolutionary biologists by providing a clear demarcation between natural science and "natural theology" (a la Paley, Behe, Dembski, and Johnson). In addition, ID theory has spotlighted a sadly neglected area of evolutionary theory "“ the concept of "teleonomy" and the problem of adaptive teleology "“ in a way that I believe will ultimately benefit not only evolutionary theory, but also cognitive psychology, evolutionary psychology, and the development of artificial intelligence.

And so, to quote a well-known "philosopher" of the last century ;-) "Let a hundred flowers bloom and a hundred schools of thought contend!"

]]> By: Jack http://telicthoughts.com/another-course-on-id/#comment-13007 Jack Sat, 29 Apr 2006 17:47:35 +0000 http://telicthoughts.com/?p=669#comment-13007 Are students taking Roth's course going to leave thinking ID is anti-evolution? One of the topics is: ID as an alternative to evolution in science. I wonder if Roth is going to inform his students that ID isn't anti-evolution but is a teleological perspective on how evolution occurs? Are students taking Roth's course going to leave thinking ID is anti-evolution? One of the topics is: ID as an alternative to evolution in science.

I wonder if Roth is going to inform his students that ID isn't anti-evolution but is a teleological perspective on how evolution occurs?

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