Let me apologize up front for my overly cryptic responses. I have overextended myself badly. So my answers will be short.

It may be true that there are only quantum effects, but it does not follow that there is no matter. For matter could be the effect.

I see is the other way around. It is quantum effects that give the illusion of particles and matter.

It has occurred to me, that in saying there is no matter, you are also saying, there is no energy.

E=mC^2 tells most of average public that matter can be converted into energy and visa versa.

What it really means is that matter IS energy. There are no particles. This is no solid matter. Just curves in 4D spacetime.

Some people call separation of curves in 4D spacetime "gravitational energy". Now, it becomes a semantics discussion.

The point is solid matter (even to the smallest particle) does not exist.

That is why I find the term "materialist" amusing

There is no "matter" only quantum effects.

It has occurred to me, that in saying there is no matter, you are also saying, there is no energy.

It may be true that there are only quantum effects, but it does not follow that there is no matter. For matter could be the effect.

I've found that matter can be damn well anything materialists want it to be, personally. I'm pretty sure if Penrose proves the platonic realm to be real, arxiv will have articles about the new theoretical platonium matter.

There is no "matter" only quantum effects.

Forgive me if I am being dull.

It may be true that there are only quantum effects, but it does not follow that there is no matter. For matter could be the effect.

"I posit that everything is patterns in the 4D spacetime wavefunction."

You asked…

And that's not materialism how, and how is it even coherent?

There is no "matter" only quantum effects.

But let me answer a question with a question. Does matter curve spacetime or is matter just curves in spacetime?

What sort of pattern does chaos have?

That, detective, is the right question.

I'm not the materialist.

You were the one that said "Everything is matter"¦"

And you took that to mean I am a materialist? Learn to read .

I posit that everything is patterns in the 4D spacetime wavefunction.

And that's not materialism how, and how is it even coherent?

What sort of pattern does chaos have?

You asked…

Given a materialist view of the world, what is the difference between belief, knowledge, and understanding?

I'm not the materialist.

You were the one that said "Everything is matter…"

I posit that everything is patterns in the 4D spacetime wavefunction.

I'm at the part of the learning curve reserved for beginers when it comes to quantum physics and its relationship to issues discussed at TT.

I recommend Stanley L. Jaki, John Pokinghorne, and Paul Davies.

Actually, I would say it the other way around…

"To understand is to know".

Fifth Monarchy Man indicated that I sound like Alvin Plantinga when I say things like this.

As uncomfortable as it might make me, I have to agree. This is similar to Plantinga's concept of warrant. Belief just isn't enough.