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Where's the Outrage?

Posted in Post-Wedge World on December 28th, 2009 by Bradford

While we're on the subject of irrelevancies and boring stuff… Is there anything more banal than playing up the ID movement and its threat to science? It consumes so much time critics have little energy left to combat actual threats to science. A sad commentary.

Berkeley High School is considering a controversial proposal to eliminate science labs and the five science teachers who teach them to free up more resources to help struggling students.

The proposal to put the science-lab cuts on the table was approved recently by Berkeley High's School Governance Council, a body of teachers, parents, and students who oversee a plan to change the structure of the high school to address Berkeley's dismal racial achievement gap, where white students are doing far better than the state average while black and Latino students are doing worse.

Paul Gibson, an alternate parent representative on the School Governance Council, said that information presented at council meetings suggests that the science labs were largely classes for white students. He said the decision to consider cutting the labs in order to redirect resources to underperforming students was virtually unanimous

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Changing Your Name

Posted in Approaches, Irreducible Complexity, Post-Wedge World, The Critics, The Debate on July 18th, 2008 by Joy

A few years ago I worked as tech support for an internet provider. After being there for a year and a half's worth of steady paychecks, I was suddenly informed by HR that they could no longer write my checks out to the name on my bank account because my SS card had a different name first.

I argued that the middle name on that SS card is the name on my bank account as well as the name on my birth certificate and I can use any of the names I've got if I so choose. They told me I'd have to take time off work – unpaid – to go sit at the SS office all day to get the names switched around to suit their new policy, supposedly imposed by Homeland Security. Being not very tolerant of pointless corporate/governmental stupidity, I told 'em to shove their silly policy on which of my legal names I can choose to have on my paycheck – they didn't pay me enough for that sort of garbage.

What does name-changing have to do with these debates? Well, we've seen quite a few critics recently who want to know why it is that TTers who aren't part of the DI and aren't 'Creo-bots' would still call what they're talking about "Intelligent Design." And their questions have been repeatedly answered by pointing out that it wouldn't do us any good to change the name of the approach to biology and evolution, because these very same critics – as well as hoards of others – would still claim we're part of the DI, support "The Wedge" and *are* Creo-bots. What would be the point?
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Not Completely Stealthy?

Posted in Computer Science, Intelligent Design, Philosophy of Mind, Post-Wedge World, The Critics, The Debate on June 10th, 2008 by Joy

After watching as a number of threads descended into chaos from interesting starts, an underlying oddity seems to beg attention from the fisticuffs over word usage that has become so prevalent of late. In the Post-Wedge World the perennial dueling metaphysics hasn't waned one bit, but something new has come to the fore.

We've been mixing it up with a commenter who calls himself "aiguy" to identify with the field of computer science called "Artificial Intelligence." It would appear that he has a problem with ID's use of the word "Intelligent" to describe its focus. Aiguy tells us that we have no definition of intelligence for either AI or ID, but he wants ID to drop the term anyway, perhaps so he can feel better about the use of it in his own discipline of science. Who knows?

If it were just this one critic who was bent by the terminology it would just be a single critic with a single issue about terminology. Instead, aiguy is just the latest in a string of critics who have lodged complaints in recent months about ID's use of the word "Intelligent" and insisted that it be dropped from the lexicon.

It strikes me that with such universal focus on the word – whether the complaint is that it's a metaphysical concept or an ill-defined term – the 'other' word has slipped under the radar into mainstream usage. Is it now okay to speak of biological systems in terms of "Design" so long as "Intelligent" isn't attached?

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Freed from the Wedge

Posted in Post-Wedge World on October 6th, 2007 by MikeGene

Even though we live in the post-wedge world, some people remain confused about this. They think a truly post-wedge world is one where we would all be non-teleologists and there would be no creationists trying to influence the public school curriculum. But the post-wedge world is not someone's fantasy; it exists as a consequence of a court ruling. Even Wesley Elsberry helps us to appreciate the true essence of the post-wedge world:

Some people thought the Kitzmiller v. Dover Area School District case put paid to antievolution. What it did, and did well, was to blunt the "intelligent design" label, such that it could no longer be the leading edge of the "wedge". But antievolution goes on, seeking to stuff as many of its old, tired, bogus antievolution arguments as possible into science classrooms. (emphasis added)

Indeed. Thanks to the Dover decision, ID has been cut away from "the wedge" and this explains the essence of the post-wedge world. From the perspective of those focused on ID, we are indeed in the post-wedge world. ID was not some peripheral component of the wedge nor was the Dover decision a trivial event. As Elsberry explains, ID can no longer be the leading edge of the "wedge." Thus, objective and reasonable people can no longer view those of us who are interested in ID, and how it relates to biology and evolution, as being part of "the wedge." In fact, if you will recall, many of the contributors to this blog applauded the outcome of Kitzmiller v. Dover Area School District, as it constitutes an important step in considering the concept of ID divorced from the socio-political activity.

Wikipedia has an entry on the "Wedge strategy" that makes it clear ID is no longer part of "the wedge":

Moreover, wedge advocates are now disavowing their own terminology because the term "intelligent design" has become a liability for them since the ruling in Kitzmiller v. Dover Area School District. Because of the success of the Discovery Institute's public relations campaign to make "intelligent design" a household phrase, and the ruling in Kitzmiller v. Dover Area School District that ID is essentially religious in nature more people recognize it as the religious concept of creationism. Having come closest to accomplishing getting ID into public school science classes in Kansas and Ohio where they succeeded in getting the State Board of Education to adopt ID lesson plans, intelligent design proponents advocated "teach the controversy" as a legally defensible alternative to teaching intelligent design. (emphasis added)

But we do not disavow the term "intelligent design," now do we? In fact, several times, critics, who have nothing but our best interests in mind (wink, wink), have encouraged us to disavow the term "intelligent design." Well, this Wikipedia entry should help the reader see the substance of point #4 from one of my earlier blogs.

In the post-wedge world, ID is no longer useful to those seeking to influence public school curricula and is now primarily a concept that can be used to think about biology, evolution, and origins. Since the essence of ID has always been older and deeper than any activist agenda du jour, it currently exists, and will continue to exist, just fine after having been released from "the wedge."

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Flock of Dodos

Posted in Post-Wedge World, The Debate on May 30th, 2007 by MikeGene

I finally watched the movie, Flock of Dodos. I thought it was actually quite good and filmmaker Randy Olson did a nice job of putting a human face on the sociological aspects of this whole debate. Olson, like all filmmakers, provides his own angle to the story, but it is clear to me that he makes a sincere effort to understand what is driving the cultural debate and wants to share this with his viewers.

So what is the main message that comes out of this film?

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The Atheist Agenda Unleashed

Posted in Post-Wedge World, Richard Dawkins, The New Atheists on April 10th, 2007 by Joy

We here at Telic Thoughts have applauded the "Post-Wedge World" ever since the religious motivations of school board members in Dover, Pennsylvania caused defeat of the infamous 'Wedge' strategy. Yet we are still bombarded by the wedge-centric scare mongering tactics of critics, as if Dover never happened, as if we supported teaching ID in public schools, as if we reject evolution, as if individual's metaphysical beliefs must automatically determine what is or is not science.

In the wake of their victory at Dover, the so-called 'New Atheists' have dropped all pretenses that their concerns are truly about science. They've proudly embraced the role of up-front Evangelical Atheists, thus revealing that their motivations were metaphysical all along. I applaud their new-found honesty, as this evens the public playing field significantly. And the public is certainly paying attention now that it's not just science vs. creationists arguing about educational policies in a country where religion cannot be taught as 'truth' (scientific or metaphysical) in public schools.

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No theocracy in Russia either

Posted in Intelligent Design, Post-Wedge World on February 22nd, 2007 by Krauze

First, it became unconstitutional to teach "creation science" in public school. Then it became unconstitutional to teach intelligent design as well. And not so long ago, even the attempt to just teach criticism of traditional evolutionary biology failed. But surely, a 16-year-old student in Russia who wanted to be exempt from being taught Darwin's theory would mark the onset of the theocracy that ID critics have been fretting about for years? No, apparently not:

A Russian court on Wednesday threw out a lawsuit brought by a 16-year-old student who said that being taught the theory of evolution in school violated her rights and insulted her religious beliefs.

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Lost Without That Threatiness

Posted in Post-Wedge World, The Critics, Threatiness on February 18th, 2007 by MikeGene

It's been a bad week for threatiness. First, the Kansas State Board of Education overturned previous standards written in part by advocates of intelligent design. Second, it turns out the despite all the heated misinformation from the critics, the USA leads the world in science literacy.

And now this?

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It's Getting Easier to Spot the Extremists

Posted in Post-Wedge World on February 15th, 2007 by MikeGene

Thanks to the news in Kansas, it's getting harder and harder for extremist ID critics to hide their extremism.

Remember all that hysteria about armies of creationists using ID as a Trojan Horse to install a theocracy? I think its time to put that threatiness to bed:

In a landmark vote Tuesday, the Kansas State Board of Education once again adopted science standards regarding instruction in evolution.

The new guidelines reflect an overturn of previous standards, written in part by advocates of "intelligent design," that earned Kansas international ridicule in 2005.

As we move deeper and deeper into the post-wedge world, it gets harder and harder not to ridicule the threatiness that is associated with ID. I'm trying to be respectful here, as I know some people are really sincere in their fear. But at some point, I'm not sure I'll be able to control myself.

Anyway, there is something even better below the fold.

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Michael Ruse: When evolution works the worst

Posted in Evolution, Intelligent Design, Post-Wedge World on February 9th, 2007 by Krauze

Darwinism and its DiscontentsRichard Bellon reviews Michael Ruse's book, Darwinism and its Discontents for American Scientist:

We see that evolution works worst when elevated to the status of a secular religion or otherwise subordinated to the service of extrascientific commitments. "Beware of anything that answers everything," Ruse cautions. "It usually ends by answering nothing. And that is certainly not true of Darwinism." We see that evolution works best when deployed to address tightly defined questions about the living world.

Indeed. Evolution is a compelling and well-supported way of looking at the world, which shouldn't be conflated with philosophical or political worldview that tries to piggy-back on its success. And the same goes for intelligent design. There are plenty of people interested in associating intelligent design with certain philosophical or political movements – either because they are themselves part of such movements and want to use intelligent design to support them, or because they are opposed to intelligent design and want to see it in unflattering company. But like evolution, intelligent design is an idea that isn't bound to whichever ideological cart various people are trying to chain it to.

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Same Arguments, Different Movements

Posted in Post-Wedge World, The Critics, The New Atheists on January 25th, 2007 by MikeGene

Here's Michael Shermer writing in Science Magazine:

The data have spoken. The God Delusion is a runaway bestseller, a market testimony to the hunger many people"”far more, I now think, than polls reveal"”have for someone in a position of prestige and power to speak for them in such an eloquent voice. Dawkins's latest book deserves multiple readings, not just as an important work of science, but as a great work of literature. (emphasis added)

The God Delusion is "an important work of science?" Isn't it odd how a popular anti-religious book, which reports no new experiments or data, and was not peer-reviewed, has become an Important Work of Science?

Have you begun to notice as we continue our transition into the post-wedge world, that the arguments used against the ID Movement are slowly being taken off the table to conveniently make room for the Anti-Religion Movement?

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The Coming Twilight of the Post-Wedge World?

Posted in Post-Wedge World on January 13th, 2007 by MikeGene

As regular readers of Telic Thoughts know, I both looked forward to and applauded the arrival of the post-wedge world. However, I am now beginning to doubt whether the post-wedge world will last very long. Two significant developments have occurred and they have nothing to do with the Discovery Institute. First, as I originally noted, the most famous scientist alive has been undercutting the Dover decision and secondly, this scientist, and several others from academia, have sparked a new socio-political movement that has absorbed this message. This movement includes scientists like Sam Harris, who denies the NAS position that science is neutral about the existence of God and instead uses the NAS membership as evidence to the contrary.

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David Heddle on the ID movement

Posted in Intelligent Design, Post-Wedge World on December 22nd, 2006 by Krauze

David Heddle has some fitting words for members of the political ID movement:

News that Cobb County case had been settled, and that the textbook stickers are a thing of the past, made me think of a closing parenthesis. In my mind, and admittedly not in strict concurrence with the actual timeline, the placement of the stickers was the shot across the bow from the Political-Activist Intelligent Design (PAID) movement, and the settlement of the case is the tippy-top of the PAID movement mast disappearing beneath the surface. (Those aren't mixed metaphors, are they? I can't tell.)

I don't have much new to say about the PAID movement. But I thought I would try to restate some old criticisms in graphical form. I'm not sure if the plot succeeds at making my three recurring PAID movement themes: 1) it backfired, big-time 2) it created a cottage industry complete with a cult-like following and leaders with delusions, it would seem, of becoming the White House Science Advisor 3) it was deceptive – it really is about religion – which makes its ends-justify-the-means methods all the more inexcusable.

I think Heddle exaggerates things a bit for effect, but I agree with the gist of his post. Some people thought they could use ID-the-idea as a spearhead for social reform, creating the so-called "ID movement". The goal was a pipedream, as the string of legal defeats have showed, but it gave critics an opportunity to conflate the concept of ID with the movement, drumming up fear among scientists. The Sternberg affair shows how individual careers suffer when their colleagues think they have to squash every ID-friendly expression in the name of Science and Democracy. Had the ID movement not existed, would-be witchhunters would have had to look much harder for things to scare their colleagues with.

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Critics in the Post Wedge World

Posted in Post-Wedge World, The Critics on December 15th, 2006 by MikeGene

Okay, since most critics can only hear "God/religion" when "ID" is spoken or written, things have becomes more complicated in the Post Wedge World. For now it appears that we have at least four types of ID critics.
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Developments in the Post-Wedge World

Posted in Intelligent Design, Post-Wedge World, The Critics on December 2nd, 2006 by MikeGene

In our comments section, one TT member noted, "Its not real suprising that when President Bush said he supported teaching intelligent design he was only pandering to social conservatives. Since then, of course, the Dover, Pa. school board was voted out of office, Kitzmiller v. Dover was decided by a conservative Bush appointee, creationists were voted out of power on the Kansas School Board in the GOP primaries, Ohio deep sixed its ID policy, and a bunch of creationists lost in the November elections, the most prominent being Senator Rick Santorum, who couldn't run away from IDism fast enough after Kitzmiller. I'm inclined to agree with the 'Rev. Dr.' Lenny Flank that IDism is dead, dead, dead."

But it depends on what he means by "IDism."

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