I inivte bright guys like ThoughtProvoker or any of the scientists here to help them with a freshman chemistry problem.

I did look at your problem, but you have surrounded it with so much bombastic smoke that I do not understand what you think the problem is. So I waited for Nick's response.

I happen to think Nick handled it fine.

Now that we understand you are not suggesting that an old earth is false we can start separating the wheat from the chaff.

While I suspect we both won't be satisfied with the resolution, I will attempt to provide an engineering prospective. Starting with how deceptive plots with log scales are. I had an old engineering professor who warned us about that all the time. I suggest most modern scientific papers use computerized curve fitting to avoid this problem.

I will continue this on your web site. Any TTers can go here to follow if they are interested.

Sal,

Until you explain this you aren't even worth arguing with.

The specific issue was the accuracy of C-14 dates, not any of the other isotopes. Did it occur to you it is in principle possible the Earth is old and C-14 totally worthless.

The racemization data refute confidence in C-14 data and probably lots of other stratigraphic speculations. The possible Oldness of the World does not give C-14 speculations a free pass nor stratigraphic ideas that are needed to bolster failed Darwinian speculations.

Thanks for responding however.

Sal

Until you explain this you aren't even worth arguing with.

Any corrections to the math and calculations are most welcome.

Sal, isn't Nick's Master's Degree in Geography, not Chemistry?

Did I give Nick too much credit? My bad. Anyway, as BS in Chemistry is good enough. Nick really needs to help the poor schleps who decided to debate about aspartic acid racemization constants and C-14 dating.

They're doing such a bad job in debate, I almost thought they were creationist Lokis posing as Darwinists. A member named Tiggy is getting what little brain cells he has left beaten to a pulp. I'm hoping Nick of the NCSE can rescue one of his injured comrades from the hands of those pesky YECs.

Actually, I know just the guy for the task. Nick Matzke, the PhD candidate at Berzerkely with a masters in Chemistry

Sal, isn't Nick's Master's Degree in Geography, not Chemistry? He has a BS in Biology and Chemistry, as I recall.

Apparently some of the usual anti-ID critics are having problems with freshman chemistry. I inivte bright guys like ThoughtProvoker or any of the scientists here to help them with a freshman chemistry problem.

The sample question is the racemization rate constant of Aspartic Acid with a D/L ratio of .14 and a supposed age of 400 years. I'm appalled the supposed "pro-Science" crowd is acting like the guys on that French game show when asked what orbits the Earth. They aren't answering a simple question. Can any Darwinists or critics here help their poor science challenged brethren on a simple chemistry question.

Go to Systematic Errors in C-14 dating.

MikeGene: But this is all irrelevant now and won't be pursued.

That's your choice. I just thought I would ask.