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Conceptual Barriers to Open Questions

by Bradford

Viewpoint features two consecutive entries relevant to discussions of Intelligent design. Microscopic Clutch refers to the familiar bacterial flagellum and notes a construct, analogous to the clutch of an automobole transmission, enabling rotation stoppage. Arguments, pro and con, about irreducible complexity are well known. Critics of Behe have argued that Behe's selection conundrum can be overcome through evolutionary cooption of systems within which distinct IC parts already existed replete with biological function albeit not necessarily function presently observed. The issue of interrelatedness of parts to function is pushed back in time. The evolutionary cooption alternative obviates the necessity of a telic process. Or does it? If we retrace an evolutionary process we eventually arrive at a single cell; the basic unit of living organisms but irreducibly complex nonetheless.

Was that cell loaded with modular cellular constructs designed to adapt to the variations of earthly environments or can a reductionist approach be traced back to extra-cellular chemistry on prebiotic earth? There are multiple variants of "front loading" the author points out. Front loading a process can be viewed as a series of steps in which each one in the series was enabled by the preceeding one traced back to an initial starting unit- a pre-wound mechanism to use a metaphor.

Is active information required to find targets in search space and does the vast size of protein sequence space assure us that the evolution of protein sequence, structure and function is a given in the absence of front loading?

The God Delusion, Ch 7 (partII) is a second Viewpoint entry accurately debunking the nonsense holding that non-religious value systems are intrinsically preferable. Those convinced that God is a delusion are front loaded with conceptual barriers to an objective assessment of the sufficiency of a non-telic process.

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4 Responses to “Conceptual Barriers to Open Questions”

  1. MikeGene Says:
    June 24th, 2008 at 11:49 pm

    Hi Bradford,

    Is active information required to find targets in search space and does the vast size of protein sequence space assure us that the evolution of protein sequence, structure and function is a given in the absence of front loading?

    All I can say is the fact that evolution borrows so deeply and thoroughly, and that it relies so much on gene duplication and horizontal transfer, tells us that front-loading is a viable hypothesis.

    As for the questions, there is also the question as to just how much the blind watchmaker could accomplish without proteins. I hit on this here and here and will be adding more with the help of the RNA world.

    Oh yeah, and a brief observation at the book blog.

  2. Comment by MikeGene — June 24, 2008 @ 11:49 pm

  3. Bradford Says:
    June 25th, 2008 at 11:00 am

    From a link supplied by Mike:

    Mike Gene: Look at it this way. What do we need for the blind watchmaker to exist? A finite, changing world, something that replicates, and imperfect replication. The first and the third are givens due to the fabric of Nature. The second is more iffy. In living cells, proteins play the key role in replicating things (they replicate the DNA, they divide the cell, and coordinate both). But if we entertain the notion of an RNA world, the proteins are not needed for replication (then again, proteins are not needed for chemical reactions to take place). But what the proteins do is amplify and enhance this replication property, and thus enhance the blind watchmakers' abilities. What's more, the same molecule that enhances replication also opens up a whole vast world of phenotypes not available to the blind watchmaker earlier. You can almost think of proteins are a form of tech material designed to exploit and prop up the blind watchmaker. And maybe even give the blind watchmaker a little guidance.

    The term catalytic is loosely used by RNA world enthusiasts who put forth the argument that RNA catalytic properties could have initially substituted for those of proteins. The term catalytic has a very limited scope when referencing RNA. Not nearly as diverse as the catalytic functions displayed by proteins. There is an unsupported assumption that the more limited functions would have sufficed to allow for a sustained, self-replicating entity capable of evolving and giving rise to protein function.

  4. Comment by Bradford — June 25, 2008 @ 11:00 am

  5. mitschlag Says:
    June 25th, 2008 at 5:27 pm

    The term catalytic has a very limited scope when referencing RNA. Not nearly as diverse as the catalytic functions displayed by proteins.

    And those limitations are…?

  6. Comment by mitschlag — June 25, 2008 @ 5:27 pm

  7. Bradford Says:
    June 26th, 2008 at 12:20 am

    http://www.arn.org/docs/odesig...

  8. Comment by Bradford — June 26, 2008 @ 12:20 am

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