Does this Explain Tunguska?
by BradfordIn 1908 a mysterious explosion took place in a remote region of Siberia flattening trees over a huge expanse of land while leaving no crater. Does this explain it?
The well-known Tunguska-1908 phenomenon (TP) problems (the fast transfer of the kinetic energy of the meteoroid W~10-50 Mt TNT to air, with its heating to T>10^4 K at an altitude of 5-10 km, the final turn of the smoothly sloping, ~0-20^o to horizon, trajectory of the body through ~10^o to the West, the pattern and area of the tree-fall and trees' scorching by heat radiation, etc.) allow a simple solution within the New Explosive Cosmogony (NEC) of minor bodies, as opposed to other approaches. The NEC considers the short-period (SP) comet nuclei, to which the Tunguska body belonged, to be fragments produced in explosions of massive icy envelopes of Ganymede-type bodies saturated by products of bulk electrolysis of ices to the form of a 2H2+O2 solid solution. The nearly tangent entry into the Earth's atmosphere with V~20 km/s of such a nucleus, ~200-500 m in size and ~(5-50)x10^12 g in mass, also saturated by 2H2+O2, initiated detonation of its part of ~10^12 g at an altitude of 5-10 km. This resulted in deflection of this fraction trajectory by 5^o-10^o, and fast expansion with ~2 km/s of its detonation products brought about their fast slowing down by the air, heating of the latter to T>10^4 K and a phenomenon of high-altitude explosion. On crossing the Earth's atmosphere, the main part of the unexploded nucleus escaped into space, and this body moving presently in an SP orbit should eventually be identified in time. Its impact with W~250-3000 Mt TNT on the Earth's surface (which could occur in 1908) would have produced a crater up to ~3.5-8 km in size, with an ejection of dust that would have brought about a climatic catastrophe. The processes involved in the TP are resembling those accompanying falling P/Shoemaker-Levy 9 onto Jupiter and, possibly, the impact-caused Younger Dryas cooling ~13 ka ago.



















March 29th, 2009 at 8:31 pm
The Tunguska incident is fertile ground for science fiction writers. Here's a story that could be classified as historic science fiction:
Comment by Bradford — March 29, 2009 @ 8:31 pm
March 30th, 2009 at 11:50 am
This hypothesis of the cause of the explosion in Siberia back in the early 20th Century is completely impenetrable to me, but it has lots of numbers and squiggly lines and was written by a scientist, so I accept it unquestioningly and wholeheartedly and will rabidly attack anyone who says it cannot be true, once I have a vague idea of what it is.
Comment by angryoldfatman — March 30, 2009 @ 11:50 am
March 30th, 2009 at 12:14 pm
angryoldfatman:
Comment by Bradford — March 30, 2009 @ 12:14 pm
March 31st, 2009 at 4:07 am
aofm
That is ironic, because whenever IDists defend Dembski's work (thinking about when I posted at ARN mostly), I have got the impression that generally they found that the maths is impenetrable, but they accept it "unquestioningly and wholeheartedly" even so, and again will attack anyone who duisagrees with it.
Comment by The Pixie Again — March 31, 2009 @ 4:07 am
March 31st, 2009 at 10:05 am
The Pixie Again wrote:
It isn't ironic because your analogy fails at the emphasized point.
Dembski is not a scientist because he supports ID and he does not have a beard.
Therefore, you cannot blindly believe anything he says no matter how impenetrable his math his or how many squiggly lines he uses. If he was a scientist, however, your analogy would be spot on.
Comment by angryoldfatman — March 31, 2009 @ 10:05 am
March 31st, 2009 at 11:02 am
aofm
Good point.
Comment by The Pixie Again — March 31, 2009 @ 11:02 am
March 31st, 2009 at 3:16 pm
Indeed. Having 2 Phds no longer qualifies anyone to be a scientist.
Only dancing around in circles and shaking a rubber chicken while chanting, "Oh Darwin gods, have mercy on me.", counts these days, so even "pixie again' qualifies
Comment by Hitch — March 31, 2009 @ 3:16 pm
March 31st, 2009 at 8:07 pm
Hitch wrote:
Don't forget the beard.
Dennett is now considered a scientist today because of his bushy Darwin/Santa beard. When he was clean-shaven, he was a mere philosopher, and from what I've read, a very poor one.
Grow a decent length of facial hair and BAM! instant scientist.
And no, Dawkins is not a scientist.
Comment by angryoldfatman — March 31, 2009 @ 8:07 pm