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Helping the Blind Watchmaker

by MikeGene

Students of nature once considered the vertebrate eye to be too complex to explain naturally, but subsequent research has led to the conclusion that this remarkable structure can be readily understood as a product of natural selection. This shows that what may appear to be "irreducibly complex" today may be explained naturalistically tomorrow. -Here

While I can appreciate the point they are making, what about this "conclusion" that the vertebrate eye is a "product of natural selection?" Surely natural selection was involved in the evolution of the eye, and played a role, but these authors make it sound as if natural selection was the cause. Natural selection simply selects the products that something else provides. And in the case of the vertebrate eye, it looks like natural selection just might have had some help. :grin:

I'll see if I can get that story up this weekend.

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3 Responses to “Helping the Blind Watchmaker”

  1. Mung Says:
    February 10th, 2008 at 12:16 am

    How's this for a scientific treatise in a tradition of scientific explanation which is supposed to have banished teleology from science: On the Origin of Species by Means of Natural Selection, or the Preservation of Favoured Races in the Struggle for Life?

    Darwin saw no point in banishing teleology and was content, as I have abundantly exemplified, to eschew the strictures of the reductionist paradigm, which banished final causes, purposes, and analogies to human intentions.

    Quotes from Robert Maxwell Young, Intelligent Design: A Symptom of Metaphysical Malaise, in The Panda's Black Box.

  2. Comment by Mung — February 10, 2008 @ 12:16 am

  3. MikeGene Says:
    February 10th, 2008 at 9:34 pm

    Well, I never did get to it. :cry:
    It wasn't the best of weekends for me.

  4. Comment by MikeGene — February 10, 2008 @ 9:34 pm

  5. Todd Berkebile Says:
    February 11th, 2008 at 4:20 pm

    What they are saying is simply that the eye and other IC systems do not require a Designer. They cannot scientifically assert that no designer was involved without first inventing a time machine and studying the event directly. But pondering all the possibilities really isn't what science cares about, science is fairly reductionist and only cares about defining the minimal requirements. Its more the role of philosophy or theology to ponder possibilities.

  6. Comment by Todd Berkebile — February 11, 2008 @ 4:20 pm

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