Comments on: More Dampening of Contingency http://telicthoughts.com/more-dampening-of-contingency/ An independent blog about intelligent design Fri, 21 Nov 2008 21:30:02 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.6.3 By: Joe G http://telicthoughts.com/more-dampening-of-contingency/#comment-6742 Joe G Mon, 02 Jan 2006 19:33:40 +0000 http://telicthoughts.com/?p=469#comment-6742 The connection with this article and <i>The Privileged Planet</i> is that it confirms what they predict- that is if we find complex life, not only will all the same factors be present (the same as here), but the observers on that planet will be similar to the observers on this one AND that the life would be carbon-based. It also goes along with their rendition of the fine-tuning argument. And as I said earlier it makes convergent evolution much easier to facilitate, but it does put a damper on the "endless forms..." bit. The connection with this article and The Privileged Planet is that it confirms what they predict- that is if we find complex life, not only will all the same factors be present (the same as here), but the observers on that planet will be similar to the observers on this one AND that the life would be carbon-based.

It also goes along with their rendition of the fine-tuning argument. And as I said earlier it makes convergent evolution much easier to facilitate, but it does put a damper on the "endless forms…" bit.

]]> By: Joe G http://telicthoughts.com/more-dampening-of-contingency/#comment-6720 Joe G Mon, 02 Jan 2006 14:10:30 +0000 http://telicthoughts.com/?p=469#comment-6720 Mike Gene: <i>My interests are more along the lines of front-loading evolution. That is, more and more data make it increasingly plausible to design through evolution.</i> After more thought the article made me realize that perhaps convergent evolution isn't so far fetched after all. I also wonder what this does to Sean Carroll's "Endless forms Most Beautiful"... But anyways, thanks Mike Mike Gene:
My interests are more along the lines of front-loading evolution. That is, more and more data make it increasingly plausible to design through evolution.

After more thought the article made me realize that perhaps convergent evolution isn't so far fetched after all.

I also wonder what this does to Sean Carroll's "Endless forms Most Beautiful"…

But anyways, thanks Mike

]]> By: MikeGene http://telicthoughts.com/more-dampening-of-contingency/#comment-6696 MikeGene Sun, 01 Jan 2006 22:57:17 +0000 http://telicthoughts.com/?p=469#comment-6696 JoeG, My interests are more along the lines of front-loading evolution. That is, more and more data make it increasingly plausible to design through evolution. However, right now, I'm just tossing out tidbits and will go into more detail sometime in the future. In other words, I'm basically done here, so if you would like to explore the connections with the TPP, go for it. JoeG,

My interests are more along the lines of front-loading evolution. That is, more and more data make it increasingly plausible to design through evolution. However, right now, I'm just tossing out tidbits and will go into more detail sometime in the future.

In other words, I'm basically done here, so if you would like to explore the connections with the TPP, go for it.

]]> By: Douglas http://telicthoughts.com/more-dampening-of-contingency/#comment-6691 Douglas Sun, 01 Jan 2006 20:27:10 +0000 http://telicthoughts.com/?p=469#comment-6691 They ASSUME the features "evolved", rather than that a Designer, recognizing the "built-in" limitations and constraints of His (umm...or "his" or "its") Creation, chose to create His creatures with features (which reminds me - there used to be a horror show with various horror programs on locally in northern Indiana called "Creature Feature"...used to give me nightmares when I was a kid) which would fit those constraints. They ASSUME the features "evolved", rather than that a Designer, recognizing the "built-in" limitations and constraints of His (umm…or "his" or "its") Creation, chose to create His creatures with features (which reminds me - there used to be a horror show with various horror programs on locally in northern Indiana called "Creature Feature"…used to give me nightmares when I was a kid) which would fit those constraints.

]]> By: Joe G http://telicthoughts.com/more-dampening-of-contingency/#comment-6686 Joe G Sun, 01 Jan 2006 19:50:15 +0000 http://telicthoughts.com/?p=469#comment-6686 MikeGene, Would exploring the connections (if any) between the above linked article and the arguments made/ data presented in <i>The Privileged Planet</i> and other ID friendly pubs, be OK for this blog? For example carbon-based life and the requirements/ factors required (TPP) and homology argument for ID as presented by P. Nelson & J. Wells in <i>Darwinism, Design and Public Education</i> and how they make "more sense" (or not) in light of what you blogged MikeGene,

Would exploring the connections (if any) between the above linked article and the arguments made/ data presented in The Privileged Planet and other ID friendly pubs, be OK for this blog?

For example carbon-based life and the requirements/ factors required (TPP) and homology argument for ID as presented by P. Nelson & J. Wells in Darwinism, Design and Public Education and how they make "more sense" (or not) in light of what you blogged

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