Ed Brayton has replied to my blog where I offer a typology of ID critics. I should point out that I offered this typology up to readers of Telic Thoughts in an attempt to encourage more fair-mindedness about the critics of ID, recognizing a diversity of thought and attitude among them. For example, one should not use Richard Dawkins as the archetype of all ID critics and then paint someone like Ed with this particular broad brush.
Ed take's issue with two points in my blog.
First, he notes:
I think his choice of words in saying that the Richard Dawkins type of ID critic wants to "coerce people" into accepting their beliefs is both inaccurate and needlessly inflammatory. He may perceive Dawkins to be a bully, but there is no evidence that he advocates any type of coercion whatsoever.
When it comes to the Evangelical Atheists and their attempt to convert people to atheism, they have the classic choice of the carrot or the stick. The type B critics choose the carrot, trying to lure people into atheism with the wonders of science. The type C critics choose the stick, which also includes the heavy-handed portrayal of all religious people as being either stupid, dishonest, and/or deluded. And yes, I do indeed view this type rhetoric as a form of bullying, which is much closer to coercion than persuasion.
But there is really no need to debate this. Concerning the Richard Dawkins type of ID critic, it is quite relevant to point out that Richard Dawkins has recently signed a petition that asks his government to make it illegal for people to take their children to church. The petition reads:
We the undersigned petition the Prime Minister to Make it illegal to indoctrinate or define children by religion before the age of 16.
In order to encourage free thinking, children should not be subjected to any regular religious teaching or be allowed to be defined as belonging to a particular religious group based on the views of their parents or guardians.
Dawkins' Official Web Page also links to this petition at the top of the page, meaning that Dawkins is effectively circulating this petition.
This is not evidence of coercion???
As for the second point, Ed thinks I have gone off track with this description:
There are several things that unite all these factions. Already mentioned is their inability to contemplate the issues related to ID without relying on the "ID=religion/God" stereotype. Furthermore, I would argue that all groups entail a very strong tendency toward closed-mindedness: Types B, C, D for metaphysical reasons and Type A for political reasons. Also, all groups are united in their strong tendency to label ID proponents as "Creationists" and "threats to Science."
Yet he then spends the rest of his blog demonstrating that my description was on track, as he tries to justify his broad brushed approach that includes stereotypes and labels. I have dealt with all his arguments before, and may rehash them again. But for now, I can simply point out that while I am willing to make a distinction between someone like Ed Brayton and Richard Dawkins, Ed apparently wants to lump me with Duane Gish and Philip Johnson, where, I suppose, the TT contributors are all nothing more than players in a "PR campaign to place a thin veneer of scientific-sounding terminology over good old-fashioned religious anti-evolutionism."
Will the critics of ID ever break free of their stereotypes and realize that not all proponents of ID can be painted with the same broad brush?