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	<title>Comments on: Open thread: Bird brains, theocracy books, and Dawkins of the Gaps</title>
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		<title>By: Krauze</title>
		<link>http://telicthoughts.com/open-thread-bird-brains-theocracy-books-and-dawkins-of-the-gaps/#comment-62071</link>
		<dc:creator>Krauze</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Jan 2007 23:23:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Doug,

&lt;em&gt;"Whatever happened to DNAunion?"&lt;/em&gt;

&lt;a href="http://www.atheists.org/nogodblog/index.php/2006/06/20/solstice_board#c44013" rel="nofollow"&gt;See for yourself.&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Doug,</p>
<p><em>&#034;Whatever happened to DNAunion?&#034;</em></p>
<p><a href="http://www.atheists.org/nogodblog/index.php/2006/06/20/solstice_board#c44013" rel="nofollow">See for yourself.</a></p>
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		<title>By: Doug</title>
		<link>http://telicthoughts.com/open-thread-bird-brains-theocracy-books-and-dawkins-of-the-gaps/#comment-62069</link>
		<dc:creator>Doug</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Jan 2007 22:33:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Whatever happened to DNAunion?  Is he here under another name?  It's been a long time since I heard from him.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Whatever happened to DNAunion?  Is he here under another name?  It&#039;s been a long time since I heard from him.</p>
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		<title>By: John A. Davison</title>
		<link>http://telicthoughts.com/open-thread-bird-brains-theocracy-books-and-dawkins-of-the-gaps/#comment-61085</link>
		<dc:creator>John A. Davison</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Jan 2007 21:17:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If one is not taken seriously, he might just as well be banned. 

"When little is known with certainty, every man is an expert."
John A. Davison

"Men believe most what they least understand."
Montaigne

"A past evolution is undeniable, a present evolution undemonstrable."
John A. Davison</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If one is not taken seriously, he might just as well be banned. </p>
<p>&#034;When little is known with certainty, every man is an expert.&#034;<br />
John A. Davison</p>
<p>&#034;Men believe most what they least understand.&#034;<br />
Montaigne</p>
<p>&#034;A past evolution is undeniable, a present evolution undemonstrable.&#034;<br />
John A. Davison</p>
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		<title>By: thechristiancynic</title>
		<link>http://telicthoughts.com/open-thread-bird-brains-theocracy-books-and-dawkins-of-the-gaps/#comment-61045</link>
		<dc:creator>thechristiancynic</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Jan 2007 18:03:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That's some task, John. Best of luck (although I think you'd have to do quite a bit to get banned around here).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That&#039;s some task, John. Best of luck (although I think you&#039;d have to do quite a bit to get banned around here).</p>
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		<title>By: John A. Davison</title>
		<link>http://telicthoughts.com/open-thread-bird-brains-theocracy-books-and-dawkins-of-the-gaps/#comment-61029</link>
		<dc:creator>John A. Davison</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Jan 2007 16:26:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>When one is supremely confident of ones position, as I am, one can afford to be persistent. Presently I am simply trying to see how many blogs and forums will ban me, thereby identifying themselves as hopeless, feckless ideologues. I have been doing famously of late. My current audience, aside from this one, consists entirely of "Sandwalk" (Larry hasn't noticed me yet, but he will probably ban me when he does),"brainstorms", my favorite forum and Terry Trainor's "Evolution, Creation or Both" forum.  Incidentally, I am the one responsible for the "Both." Trainor is remarkable for his tolerance of ideas that are not in concert with his own, a rare feature among forum hosts. It is too bad others cannot do the same. Most forum heads are incorrigible egomaniacs with only one goal in mind which to establish their own perspective whatever it takes. Some of them even have hired goons like David Springer and Alan Fox to do their dirty work for them. I am sure I don't have to tell you which forums I have in mind. 

So you see "Telic Thoughts" is on trial too as far as I am concerned. 

Aren't I the arrogant one though? You bet I am.
Just what does anyone intend to do about it? Ban me?
Bannishment is the final proof that one has, as they say in the military - 

"reached out and touched someone."

I love it so!

"A past evolution is undeniable, a present evolution undemonstrable."
John A. Davison</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When one is supremely confident of ones position, as I am, one can afford to be persistent. Presently I am simply trying to see how many blogs and forums will ban me, thereby identifying themselves as hopeless, feckless ideologues. I have been doing famously of late. My current audience, aside from this one, consists entirely of &#034;Sandwalk&#034; (Larry hasn&#039;t noticed me yet, but he will probably ban me when he does),&#034;brainstorms&#034;, my favorite forum and Terry Trainor&#039;s &#034;Evolution, Creation or Both&#034; forum.  Incidentally, I am the one responsible for the &#034;Both.&#034; Trainor is remarkable for his tolerance of ideas that are not in concert with his own, a rare feature among forum hosts. It is too bad others cannot do the same. Most forum heads are incorrigible egomaniacs with only one goal in mind which to establish their own perspective whatever it takes. Some of them even have hired goons like David Springer and Alan Fox to do their dirty work for them. I am sure I don&#039;t have to tell you which forums I have in mind. </p>
<p>So you see &#034;Telic Thoughts&#034; is on trial too as far as I am concerned. </p>
<p>Aren&#039;t I the arrogant one though? You bet I am.<br />
Just what does anyone intend to do about it? Ban me?<br />
Bannishment is the final proof that one has, as they say in the military - </p>
<p>&#034;reached out and touched someone.&#034;</p>
<p>I love it so!</p>
<p>&#034;A past evolution is undeniable, a present evolution undemonstrable.&#034;<br />
John A. Davison</p>
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		<title>By: thechristiancynic</title>
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		<dc:creator>thechristiancynic</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Jan 2007 14:46:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Man, you're a persistent guy, JAD.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Man, you&#039;re a persistent guy, JAD.</p>
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		<title>By: Guts</title>
		<link>http://telicthoughts.com/open-thread-bird-brains-theocracy-books-and-dawkins-of-the-gaps/#comment-60991</link>
		<dc:creator>Guts</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Jan 2007 11:43:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>John,

I think Jack was simply quoting an article , those words were not his.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>John,</p>
<p>I think Jack was simply quoting an article , those words were not his.</p>
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		<title>By: John A. Davison</title>
		<link>http://telicthoughts.com/open-thread-bird-brains-theocracy-books-and-dawkins-of-the-gaps/#comment-60990</link>
		<dc:creator>John A. Davison</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Jan 2007 11:41:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jack

I see you intend to pretend I do not exist. That is the typical Darwinian reaction to any form of criticism of "the one true faith." That won't wash any more. 

Let the record show that Jack, whoever that really is of course, has no response to offer when formally challenged. That was the fate of everyone of my sources as well and that is the primary reason I have published my evolutionary papers. It is to restore those sources to the prominence they always have deserved as the real pioneers in the study of the greatest mystery in all of biological science - organic evolution.

I repeat, for God only knows how many times now, that the Darwinian model has absolutely nothing to do with creative evolution beyond the elaboration of intraspecific varieties, all of which are nothing but evolutionary dead ends anyway. It is the greatest and most long lived hoax in the history of science, dwarfing both the Phlogiston of Chemistry and the Ether of Physics.

"A past evolution is undeniable, a present evolution undemonstrable."
John A. Davison</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jack</p>
<p>I see you intend to pretend I do not exist. That is the typical Darwinian reaction to any form of criticism of &#034;the one true faith.&#034; That won&#039;t wash any more. </p>
<p>Let the record show that Jack, whoever that really is of course, has no response to offer when formally challenged. That was the fate of everyone of my sources as well and that is the primary reason I have published my evolutionary papers. It is to restore those sources to the prominence they always have deserved as the real pioneers in the study of the greatest mystery in all of biological science - organic evolution.</p>
<p>I repeat, for God only knows how many times now, that the Darwinian model has absolutely nothing to do with creative evolution beyond the elaboration of intraspecific varieties, all of which are nothing but evolutionary dead ends anyway. It is the greatest and most long lived hoax in the history of science, dwarfing both the Phlogiston of Chemistry and the Ether of Physics.</p>
<p>&#034;A past evolution is undeniable, a present evolution undemonstrable.&#034;<br />
John A. Davison</p>
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		<title>By: John A. Davison</title>
		<link>http://telicthoughts.com/open-thread-bird-brains-theocracy-books-and-dawkins-of-the-gaps/#comment-60960</link>
		<dc:creator>John A. Davison</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Jan 2007 08:27:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jack

I am a Creationist although not a member of the so called "ID movement."

I have definitely offered an alternative  "hypothesis" to the Darwinian "hypothesis."  It is properly identified as a "PrescribedEvolutinary Hypothesis. Apparently you choose to ignore it.

"A past evolution is undeniable, a present evolution undemonstrable."
John A. Davison</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jack</p>
<p>I am a Creationist although not a member of the so called &#034;ID movement.&#034;</p>
<p>I have definitely offered an alternative  &#034;hypothesis&#034; to the Darwinian &#034;hypothesis.&#034;  It is properly identified as a &#034;PrescribedEvolutinary Hypothesis. Apparently you choose to ignore it.</p>
<p>&#034;A past evolution is undeniable, a present evolution undemonstrable.&#034;<br />
John A. Davison</p>
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		<title>By: John A. Davison</title>
		<link>http://telicthoughts.com/open-thread-bird-brains-theocracy-books-and-dawkins-of-the-gaps/#comment-60780</link>
		<dc:creator>John A. Davison</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Jan 2007 20:11:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jack

You are absolutely right. There is no "theory" of Intelligent Design. The Intelligent Design of the entire universe, animate and inanimate, is perfectly obvious to anyone with an objective mind. Chance has played no role whatsoever in any aspect of either. How many times has he had to tell you?

"EVERYTHING is determined... by forces over which we have no control."
Albert Einstein, my emphasis.

That which IS determined WAS determined. Think about it.

"A past evolution is undeniable, a present evolution undemonstrable."
John A. Davison</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jack</p>
<p>You are absolutely right. There is no &#034;theory&#034; of Intelligent Design. The Intelligent Design of the entire universe, animate and inanimate, is perfectly obvious to anyone with an objective mind. Chance has played no role whatsoever in any aspect of either. How many times has he had to tell you?</p>
<p>&#034;EVERYTHING is determined&#8230; by forces over which we have no control.&#034;<br />
Albert Einstein, my emphasis.</p>
<p>That which IS determined WAS determined. Think about it.</p>
<p>&#034;A past evolution is undeniable, a present evolution undemonstrable.&#034;<br />
John A. Davison</p>
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