Gene, it must be emphasized, does not favor science ceasing to investigate and seek explanations for phenomena.

Ok, I'll bite. Who DOES favor science ceasing to investigate and seek explanations for phenomenon?

ReligionProf: blockquote> My review of The Design Matrix has been posted on my blog at http://exploringourmatrix.blog...

I don't have time to write more here now, but as I've written a lot there, hopefully it will suffice for the moment!

Thanks, James. I'm a little speechless here as I am overwhelmed by your sense of fairness and insight as you approached the book. It's been a long time since someone out there has caused me to question my own stereotypes about critics. Like I said, I'm speechless. So let me just quote you:

In a sense, then, if Gene is right to suggest that the genetic code indicates design, then we have in it a direct pointer to a deep mystery about our existence. If, on the other hand, a natural explanation for the rise of the genetic code can be offered, then this will simply make it an indirect pointer to the same mystery. Ultimately, the scientific data leads us beyond science to philosophical and metaphysical questions and speculations.

Wow.

Then again, there's the reason all those country songs whine about being FROM Kentucky, or maybe someday going BACK to Kentucky, but hardly anyone admits actually LIVING there.*

[*A commenter does note that referring to a 46-year old black man as "boy" is probably not a good idea, but then talking about a "top secret" national security exercise in public probably isn't the best idea either...]

Wake me when it's over…

Joy: LOL!!!! Why, Bradford (what kinda elitist name is THAT?) you know it's all about the ORANGE JUICE! Nobody but an upitty so-and-so would order OJ in a Pennsylvania diner where everybody who's an embittered anybody just drinks the day-old coffee sludge! §;o)

I was just feeling a little low cause Hillary got to drink boilermakers with the boys while I'm stuck here sipping grape juice.

Don't be too hard on him chunkdz. McGrath might be one of those small town types who has become embittered by IDists and uses religion as a crutch. I got that from a source who wants to unite all Americans especially those backward townies who got left behind.

LOL!!!! Why, Bradford (what kinda elitist name is THAT?) you know it's all about the ORANGE JUICE! Nobody but an upitty so-and-so would order OJ in a Pennsylvania diner where everybody who's an embittered anybody just drinks the day-old coffee sludge! §;o)

As for McGrath wanting Mike to pick a different title, we get that fairly regularly around here. Usually after whatever newcomer from the Infidel ranks figures out that we're not talking about Young-Earth Creationism. Tough titty, my Mama used to say…

chunkdz: McGrath even has the gall to suggest that Mike should consider calling himself something other than an ID proponent. Even Archie never suggested such a thing to Sammy.

Don't be too hard on him chunkdz. McGrath might be one of those small town types who has become embittered by IDists and uses religion as a crutch. I got that from a source who wants to unite all Americans especially those backward townies who got left behind.

Sammy Davis Jr.: "If you were prejudiced, Archie, when I came into your home, you would have called me a coon or a nigger. But you didn't say that, I heard you clear as a bell, you came right out and called me colored. And if you were prejudiced, you'd go around thinking that you were better than everybody. But after spending these wonderful moments with you, Archie, I can tell ya - you ain't better than nobody."

Archie Bunker: "Can I have your hand on that, Mr. Davis?"

Meathead?

Maybe it's more like Archie meeting Sammie Davis Jr. You know, genuine admiration - but he always feels the need to point out that Sammy is one of the "good colored's". Not like all them other colored's that's always making trouble.

McGrath even has the gall to suggest that Mike should consider calling himself something other than an ID proponent. Even Archie never suggested such a thing to Sammy.

When biologists talk about the genetic "code" who's more qualified to decide if it is indeed a code?"“A biologist or a communications engineer?

This question is so very revealing. Do codons map to amino acids or not? If they do then how do they not have symbolic meaning?