Comments on: Paper shredder part of surveillance system http://telicthoughts.com/paper-shredder-part-of-surveillance-system/ An independent blog about intelligent design Wed, 15 Oct 2008 21:10:20 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.5.1 By: Wonders For Oyarsa http://telicthoughts.com/paper-shredder-part-of-surveillance-system/#comment-170275 Wonders For Oyarsa Sat, 29 Dec 2007 04:16:02 +0000 http://telicthoughts.com/paper-shredder-part-of-surveillance-system/#comment-170275 Why Mike, this reminds me of a little e-mail exchange we had the other day... Why Mike, this reminds me of a little e-mail exchange we had the other day…

]]> By: Bradford http://telicthoughts.com/paper-shredder-part-of-surveillance-system/#comment-170242 Bradford Fri, 28 Dec 2007 17:47:13 +0000 http://telicthoughts.com/paper-shredder-part-of-surveillance-system/#comment-170242 David: <blockquote>For example, it seems to me that genes are comparable to the data that computer programs operate on. However, are there epigenetic mechanisms similar to a computer program or state machine that specify higher level processes such as the sequence in which genes are transcribed, and what to do with the resulting proteins. </blockquote> Those upper level processes can become experimental focal points about which causal flow is assessed. It is currently presummed that lower level events generate higher level processes and without a great deal of observational support. Supporting evidence is primarily comparative sequences. Actual biological functions demonstrate a necessity for higher level controls without revealing specific pathways to them that would result from lower level events. David:

For example, it seems to me that genes are comparable to the data that computer programs operate on. However, are there epigenetic mechanisms similar to a computer program or state machine that specify higher level processes such as the sequence in which genes are transcribed, and what to do with the resulting proteins.

Those upper level processes can become experimental focal points about which causal flow is assessed. It is currently presummed that lower level events generate higher level processes and without a great deal of observational support. Supporting evidence is primarily comparative sequences. Actual biological functions demonstrate a necessity for higher level controls without revealing specific pathways to them that would result from lower level events.

]]> By: David http://telicthoughts.com/paper-shredder-part-of-surveillance-system/#comment-170240 David Fri, 28 Dec 2007 17:33:30 +0000 http://telicthoughts.com/paper-shredder-part-of-surveillance-system/#comment-170240 This is very cool and analogous to how data communication protocols are engineered to detect and compensate for errors. I wonder if there are other predictions that could be made regarding cellular mechanisms starting with the assumption that the cell is largely an engineered system. For example, it seems to me that genes are comparable to the data that computer programs operate on. However, are there epigenetic mechanisms similar to a computer program or state machine that specify higher level processes such as the sequence in which genes are transcribed, and what to do with the resulting proteins. This is very cool and analogous to how data communication protocols are engineered to detect and compensate for errors. I wonder if there are other predictions that could be made regarding cellular mechanisms starting with the assumption that the cell is largely an engineered system.

For example, it seems to me that genes are comparable to the data that computer programs operate on. However, are there epigenetic mechanisms similar to a computer program or state machine that specify higher level processes such as the sequence in which genes are transcribed, and what to do with the resulting proteins.

]]> By: Bradford http://telicthoughts.com/paper-shredder-part-of-surveillance-system/#comment-170236 Bradford Fri, 28 Dec 2007 14:51:11 +0000 http://telicthoughts.com/paper-shredder-part-of-surveillance-system/#comment-170236 This was a fascinating bit of research and should be humbling to those who think our theoretical conceptualizations of how cells functions are all neatly explained and tucked away for ready reference. Possibilities are rich for design inferences if one is willing to ask the right questions. This was a fascinating bit of research and should be humbling to those who think our theoretical conceptualizations of how cells functions are all neatly explained and tucked away for ready reference. Possibilities are rich for design inferences if one is willing to ask the right questions.

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