Telic Thoughts is an independent blog about intelligent design.


« With friends like that…
More reactions to the Dover ruling »

Priest in the Classroom

by MikeGene

We've previously seen that E.O. Wilson thinks biology is the battleground for his faith. He continues this theme over at the Edge . Here is his vision of an introductory science class:

Ask the questions right from the beginning of the freshman class: What is the meaning of sex? Why do we have to die? Why do people grow old? What's the whole point of all this? You've got their attention. You talk about the scientific exploration of these issues and in order to understand them you have to understand something about the whole process of evolution and how the body works.

You say that we're going to deal with two great principles that are the substance of biology and which you must know: One, that everything that's in the body, including the brain and the action of the mind, is obedient to the laws of physics and chemistry as we understand it. And two, that the body, the species, and life as a whole evolved by natural selection. You take it from there and explain as best we can what we know about science, recognizing that there are still unanswered questions. If you sensibly ask what the meaning of life is, you don't have to worry about science haters or mathophobes. You've got 'em.

Meaning of life in Bio101? Sounds like someone wants to use science as a Trojan Horse to peddle their metaphysics to 18 year olds. Sign-up to learn about genetic engineering or because your university requires you to have a certain amount of natural science credits and receive a sermon about the meaning of life.

Wilson also has some observations about scientists:

Most science education takes a boot camp approach or is set up to train acolytes. That's because most scientists are journeymen"”they're not masters. That is to say, they're well-versed and if it's a major research university they probably have some accomplishments on a narrow segment of scientific research, but basically they think like journeymen and are there to train journeymen. They don't think particularly laterally about what their field means.

These icons link to social bookmarking sites where readers can share and discover new web pages.
  • Digg
  • Reddit
  • Mixx
  • StumbleUpon
  • YahooMyWeb
  • del.icio.us

This entry was posted on Tuesday, December 27th, 2005 at 5:06 pm and is filed under The Debate. You can follow any responses to this entry through the RSS 2.0 feed. You can leave a response, or trackback from your own site. The trackback link is: http://telicthoughts.com/priest-in-the-classroom/trackback/

4 Responses to “Priest in the Classroom”

  1. Benjii Says:
    December 28th, 2005 at 3:57 pm

    I think Wilson needs to wake up and smell the coffee.

  2. Comment by Benjii — December 28, 2005 @ 3:57 pm

  3. edarrell Says:
    December 29th, 2005 at 3:28 pm

    Why is it okay for ID advocates to discuss their religious motivations, and not okay for a distinguished scientist like Wilson to discuss his desire fore better ethics?

    More bias against science, it looks like to me.

  4. Comment by edarrell — December 29, 2005 @ 3:28 pm

  5. Krauze Says:
    December 29th, 2005 at 5:47 pm

    Hi Edarrell,

    "Why is it okay for ID advocates to discuss their religious motivations, and not okay for a distinguished scientist like Wilson to discuss his desire fore better ethics?"

    Do you know of any public school teachers who use biology classes to talk about their religious motivations? If so, you should forward that information to the ACLU.

  6. Comment by Krauze — December 29, 2005 @ 5:47 pm

  7. MikeGene Says:
    December 29th, 2005 at 6:05 pm

    Edarrell,

    As you know, since you were so fond of Wesley's Wedge, I informed you that I would apply that wedge to you.

    Why is it okay for ID advocates to discuss their religious motivations,

    We all know that Ed does not think it is okay for ID advocates to discuss their religious motivations in a science class. Thus, Ed has lied.

    and not okay for a distinguished scientist like Wilson to discuss his desire fore better ethics?

    Notice that Ed has changed "What's the whole point of all this?" and "the meaning of life" into "better ethics." A second lie.

    More bias against science, it looks like to me.

    No bias against science. A third lie.

    Two sentences and three lies from the guy who sits on his high horse and preaches against lying. Tha gives you a total of six lies over the last few days. Because of his unethical behavior and the stench of hypocrisy, Ed is banned from further participation in this thread.

  8. Comment by MikeGene — December 29, 2005 @ 6:05 pm

Leave a Reply

You must be logged in to post a comment.

  • Featured Books


    The Design Matrix: A Consilience of Clues by Mike Gene
    Your Inner Fish: A Journey into the 3.5-Billion-Year History of the Human Body

    Catalyzing Inquiry at the Interface of Computing and Biology

    System Modeling in Cellular Biology: From Concepts to Nuts and Bolts

    The Plausibility of Life By Marc W. Kirschner and John C. Gerhart

    Agents Under Fire by Angus Menuge

    Life's Solution by Simon Conway Morris

    Information Theory, Evolution and the Origin of Life by Hubert P. Yockey

    The Fifth Miracle by Paul Davies

    Nature, Design, and Science by Del Ratzsch

    Origination of Organismal Form by Muller & Newman

    Biased Embryos and Evolution by Wallace Arthur

    Rare Earth by Peter Ward and Donald Brownlee

    The Privileged Planet by Guillermo Gonzalez and Jay Richards

    The Way of the Cell by Franklin Harold

    The Volitional Brain by Benjamin Libet

    Evolution in Four Dimensions by Eva Jablonka & Marion Lamb

    The Evolution-Creation Struggle by Michael Ruse




Telic Thoughts is proudly powered by WordPress
Entries (RSS) and Comments (RSS).