Comments on: Save the children and sign the decree http://telicthoughts.com/save-the-children-and-sign-the-decree/ An independent blog about intelligent design Thu, 08 Jan 2009 06:46:12 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.6.3 By: Bilbo http://telicthoughts.com/save-the-children-and-sign-the-decree/#comment-131367 Bilbo Tue, 07 Aug 2007 22:42:56 +0000 http://telicthoughts.com/save-the-children-and-sign-the-decree/#comment-131367 Richard P. Dawkins wrote: <blockquote>"...are not and cannot ever be as skeptical a skeptic as I am." I don't believe you. :wink:</blockquote> Richard P. Dawkins wrote:
"…are not and cannot ever be as skeptical a skeptic as I am."

I don't believe you. :wink:

]]> By: keiths http://telicthoughts.com/save-the-children-and-sign-the-decree/#comment-131127 keiths Tue, 07 Aug 2007 04:13:37 +0000 http://telicthoughts.com/save-the-children-and-sign-the-decree/#comment-131127 Mike wrote: <blockquote>I have indeed offered several "testable hypotheses concerning ID," </blockquote> Hi Mike, Since this question comes up over and over, could you provide a list of these hypotheses? You might even want to link to it from TT's home page, so that people stumbling upon TT for the first time can find it easily. Mike wrote:

I have indeed offered several "testable hypotheses concerning ID,"

Hi Mike,

Since this question comes up over and over, could you provide a list of these hypotheses? You might even want to link to it from TT's home page, so that people stumbling upon TT for the first time can find it easily.

]]> By: Bradford http://telicthoughts.com/save-the-children-and-sign-the-decree/#comment-131084 Bradford Tue, 07 Aug 2007 01:24:08 +0000 http://telicthoughts.com/save-the-children-and-sign-the-decree/#comment-131084 <blockquote>Salim: No, when the critics want testable hypotheses concerning ID they really are asking you to provide a scientific basis for validating the theory you support. MG: I've argued with hundreds of critics as far back as the year 2000. It is experience with their demands that tells me what the critics want. I have indeed offered several "testable hypotheses concerning ID," but none of them are considered "testable hypotheses concerning ID" because they don't function to discredit evolution (remember that most critics believe ID = creationism).</blockquote> Implicit in this and many other exchanges is the assumption by ID critics that evolution is an intrinsically non-ID process. Yet that is the very thing that a front loading concept would discredit. Unless critics are willing to reliquish the cherished thought that evolution is of necessity an anti-ID concept then their critiques remain sterile.

Salim: No, when the critics want testable hypotheses concerning ID they really are asking you to provide a scientific basis for validating the theory you support.

MG: I've argued with hundreds of critics as far back as the year 2000. It is experience with their demands that tells me what the critics want. I have indeed offered several "testable hypotheses concerning ID," but none of them are considered "testable hypotheses concerning ID" because they don't function to discredit evolution (remember that most critics believe ID = creationism).

Implicit in this and many other exchanges is the assumption by ID critics that evolution is an intrinsically non-ID process. Yet that is the very thing that a front loading concept would discredit. Unless critics are willing to reliquish the cherished thought that evolution is of necessity an anti-ID concept then their critiques remain sterile.

]]> By: richard dawkins http://telicthoughts.com/save-the-children-and-sign-the-decree/#comment-131079 richard dawkins Tue, 07 Aug 2007 01:04:43 +0000 http://telicthoughts.com/save-the-children-and-sign-the-decree/#comment-131079 I am deeply offended by being called an imitation. Do not mistake similarity for imitation. Such a mistake would be a deeply flawed one. I am Richard P. Dawkins. I prefer to be called Dick, and I know more science than the scientific method itself. I am deeply offended by being called an imitation. Do not mistake similarity for imitation. Such a mistake would be a deeply flawed one. I am Richard P. Dawkins. I prefer to be called Dick, and I know more science than the scientific method itself.

]]> By: Salvador T. Cordova http://telicthoughts.com/save-the-children-and-sign-the-decree/#comment-131069 Salvador T. Cordova Tue, 07 Aug 2007 00:34:12 +0000 http://telicthoughts.com/save-the-children-and-sign-the-decree/#comment-131069 Richard P. Dawkins isn't the Richard Dawkins of Oxford (affectionately known as Darwin's Richard). Darwin's Richard is "CLINTON Richard Dawkins", not Richard P. Dawkins. Accept no imitations. :mrgreen: Richard P. Dawkins isn't the Richard Dawkins of Oxford (affectionately known as Darwin's Richard).

Darwin's Richard is "CLINTON Richard Dawkins", not Richard P. Dawkins. Accept no imitations. :mrgreen:

]]> By: richard dawkins http://telicthoughts.com/save-the-children-and-sign-the-decree/#comment-131063 richard dawkins Tue, 07 Aug 2007 00:08:10 +0000 http://telicthoughts.com/save-the-children-and-sign-the-decree/#comment-131063 I hereby decree that this is the real Richard P. Dawkins. I can give undeniable proof that I am who I say I am, unlike you ID-iots, who offer no proof of anything, are not and cannot ever be as skeptical a skeptic as I am. I hereby decree that this is the real Richard P. Dawkins. I can give undeniable proof that I am who I say I am, unlike you ID-iots, who offer no proof of anything, are not and cannot ever be as skeptical a skeptic as I am.

]]> By: Bilbo http://telicthoughts.com/save-the-children-and-sign-the-decree/#comment-131055 Bilbo Mon, 06 Aug 2007 23:45:01 +0000 http://telicthoughts.com/save-the-children-and-sign-the-decree/#comment-131055 was it the "no-no" that gave him away? was it the "no-no" that gave him away?

]]> By: MikeGene http://telicthoughts.com/save-the-children-and-sign-the-decree/#comment-131054 MikeGene Mon, 06 Aug 2007 23:40:32 +0000 http://telicthoughts.com/save-the-children-and-sign-the-decree/#comment-131054 Hi Bilbo, I checked and its not the real Dawkins. While I appreciate the humor out there, let's not impersonate people. Hi Bilbo,

I checked and its not the real Dawkins.

While I appreciate the humor out there, let's not impersonate people.

]]> By: Bilbo http://telicthoughts.com/save-the-children-and-sign-the-decree/#comment-131053 Bilbo Mon, 06 Aug 2007 23:38:29 +0000 http://telicthoughts.com/save-the-children-and-sign-the-decree/#comment-131053 Is anyone besides me just a bit curious about that Richard P. Dawkins fellow? Is anyone besides me just a bit curious about that Richard P. Dawkins fellow?

]]> By: MikeGene http://telicthoughts.com/save-the-children-and-sign-the-decree/#comment-131052 MikeGene Mon, 06 Aug 2007 23:24:18 +0000 http://telicthoughts.com/save-the-children-and-sign-the-decree/#comment-131052 Salim, <blockquote>No, when the critics want testable hypotheses concerning ID they really are asking you to provide a scientific basis for validating the theory you support. </blockquote> I've argued with hundreds of critics as far back as the year 2000. It is experience with their demands that tells me what the critics want. I have indeed offered several "testable hypotheses concerning ID," but none of them are considered "testable hypotheses concerning ID" because they don't function to discredit evolution (remember that most critics believe ID = creationism). In fact, here you are, demanding a testable hypothesis after I just provided a new one not more than 24 hours ago. But I'm sure you wouldn't consider it one. Anyway, we have a problem here, Salim. When you wanted to complain about lack of testable hypotheses in a thread looking for signatures for a Decree that condemns the lack of testable hypotheses, I informed you, "All I'm looking for in this thread are critics to sign the decree." You decided to ignore me by expanding on the lack of testable hypotheses, so I tossed your comment into the hole. You responded to that by again bringing up the "lack of testable hypotheses." Care to explain your disrepect? Salim,

No, when the critics want testable hypotheses concerning ID they really are asking you to provide a scientific basis for validating the theory you support.

I've argued with hundreds of critics as far back as the year 2000. It is experience with their demands that tells me what the critics want. I have indeed offered several "testable hypotheses concerning ID," but none of them are considered "testable hypotheses concerning ID" because they don't function to discredit evolution (remember that most critics believe ID = creationism). In fact, here you are, demanding a testable hypothesis after I just provided a new one not more than 24 hours ago. But I'm sure you wouldn't consider it one.

Anyway, we have a problem here, Salim. When you wanted to complain about lack of testable hypotheses in a thread looking for signatures for a Decree that condemns the lack of testable hypotheses, I informed you, "All I'm looking for in this thread are critics to sign the decree." You decided to ignore me by expanding on the lack of testable hypotheses, so I tossed your comment into the hole. You responded to that by again bringing up the "lack of testable hypotheses." Care to explain your disrepect?

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