<?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8"?><rss version="2.0"
	xmlns:content="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/content/"
	xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/"
	xmlns:atom="http://www.w3.org/2005/Atom"
	>
<channel>
	<title>Comments on: Shermer Uses Evolution to Support the Religious Right</title>
	<atom:link href="http://telicthoughts.com/shermer-uses-evolution-to-support-the-religious-right/feed/" rel="self" type="application/rss+xml" />
	<link>http://telicthoughts.com/shermer-uses-evolution-to-support-the-religious-right/</link>
	<description>An independent blog about intelligent design</description>
	<pubDate>Fri, 09 Jan 2009 21:29:13 +0000</pubDate>
	<generator>http://wordpress.org/?v=2.6.3</generator>
		<item>
		<title>By: Douglas</title>
		<link>http://telicthoughts.com/shermer-uses-evolution-to-support-the-religious-right/#comment-33378</link>
		<dc:creator>Douglas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 23 Sep 2006 13:27:03 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://telicthoughts.com/?p=939#comment-33378</guid>
		<description>From the lead-in to Shermer's "Joy without God" article:

&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;i&gt;Skeptics Society&lt;/i&gt; founder Michael Shermer explains why Darwin matters, how believing in God is the same as believing in astrology, and why it doesn't take divine faith to experience something bigger than ourselves.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Believing in God is the same as believing in astrology?  When did astrology lead a nation of several million out of a hostile country, through a wilderness, and appear to them on a mountain?  When did astrology miraculously and obviously deliver a people numerous times?  When did astrology give precise and clearly fulfilled prophecies hundreds of years in advance?  Where do atheists get characters like Shermer, anyway?

However, I have to agree with the last part of his comment.  I'm sure theists aren't the only ones who have been hit by semis.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>From the lead-in to Shermer&#039;s &#034;Joy without God&#034; article:</p>
<blockquote><p><i>Skeptics Society</i> founder Michael Shermer explains why Darwin matters, how believing in God is the same as believing in astrology, and why it doesn&#039;t take divine faith to experience something bigger than ourselves.</p></blockquote>
<p>Believing in God is the same as believing in astrology?  When did astrology lead a nation of several million out of a hostile country, through a wilderness, and appear to them on a mountain?  When did astrology miraculously and obviously deliver a people numerous times?  When did astrology give precise and clearly fulfilled prophecies hundreds of years in advance?  Where do atheists get characters like Shermer, anyway?</p>
<p>However, I have to agree with the last part of his comment.  I&#039;m sure theists aren&#039;t the only ones who have been hit by semis.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: TomG</title>
		<link>http://telicthoughts.com/shermer-uses-evolution-to-support-the-religious-right/#comment-33373</link>
		<dc:creator>TomG</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 23 Sep 2006 11:04:47 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://telicthoughts.com/?p=939#comment-33373</guid>
		<description>One and the same. Makes you wonder about his professional qualifications to do a piece like this.

&lt;a href="http://www.skeptic.com/about_us/meet_michael_shermer.html" rel="nofollow"&gt;Shermer's training&lt;/a&gt; is in psychology and the history of science. I don't doubt that he's competent in both, but his prejudices seem to get the better of him. There's another great example of that in his current Skeptic magazine (discussed &lt;a href="http://www.thinkingchristian.net/C246305481/E20060921083407/index.html" rel="nofollow"&gt;here&lt;/a&gt;; see also &lt;a href="http://magicstatistics.com/2006/09/22/i-can't-believe-that-atrocious-article-is-still-being-touted/" rel="nofollow"&gt;Scott Gilbreath's response&lt;/a&gt;). 

His credibility is not on the upward swing--not with this kind of nonsense going on. Yet SciAm still features him.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One and the same. Makes you wonder about his professional qualifications to do a piece like this.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.skeptic.com/about_us/meet_michael_shermer.html" rel="nofollow">Shermer&#039;s training</a> is in psychology and the history of science. I don&#039;t doubt that he&#039;s competent in both, but his prejudices seem to get the better of him. There&#039;s another great example of that in his current Skeptic magazine (discussed <a href="http://www.thinkingchristian.net/C246305481/E20060921083407/index.html" rel="nofollow">here</a>; see also <a href="http://magicstatistics.com/2006/09/22/i-can't-believe-that-atrocious-article-is-still-being-touted/" rel="nofollow">Scott Gilbreath&#039;s response</a>). </p>
<p>His credibility is not on the upward swing&#8211;not with this kind of nonsense going on. Yet SciAm still features him.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: Bradford</title>
		<link>http://telicthoughts.com/shermer-uses-evolution-to-support-the-religious-right/#comment-33349</link>
		<dc:creator>Bradford</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 23 Sep 2006 04:42:47 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://telicthoughts.com/?p=939#comment-33349</guid>
		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;I'd point out that Shermer was an Evangelical Christian for a number of years. As far as I can tell from his writing, he's no Christian-basher (unlike what's-his-name in Minnesota), so I don't know why anyone would suggest he "wouldn't recognize good theology if I spammed him with it."&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Is this the same Shermer who wrote &lt;a href="http://www.salon.com/books/int/2006/08/23/shermer/" rel="nofollow"&gt;The Joys of Life Without God?&lt;/a&gt;

&lt;blockquote&gt;When I met him, I didn't want to get bogged down in the details of his defense. Shermer, 51, is executive director of the Skeptics Society, bold debunkers of all things supernatural; a columnist for Scientific American; and author of a bunch of readable books about why people flock to God or astrology.&lt;/blockquote&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>I&#039;d point out that Shermer was an Evangelical Christian for a number of years. As far as I can tell from his writing, he&#039;s no Christian-basher (unlike what&#039;s-his-name in Minnesota), so I don&#039;t know why anyone would suggest he &#034;wouldn&#039;t recognize good theology if I spammed him with it.&#034;</p></blockquote>
<p>Is this the same Shermer who wrote <a href="http://www.salon.com/books/int/2006/08/23/shermer/" rel="nofollow">The Joys of Life Without God?</a></p>
<blockquote><p>When I met him, I didn&#039;t want to get bogged down in the details of his defense. Shermer, 51, is executive director of the Skeptics Society, bold debunkers of all things supernatural; a columnist for Scientific American; and author of a bunch of readable books about why people flock to God or astrology.</p></blockquote>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: takuan</title>
		<link>http://telicthoughts.com/shermer-uses-evolution-to-support-the-religious-right/#comment-33333</link>
		<dc:creator>takuan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 23 Sep 2006 00:44:18 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://telicthoughts.com/?p=939#comment-33333</guid>
		<description>Leaving aside all the usual Darwin-bashing yada for the moment, I'd point out that Shermer was an Evangelical Christian for a number of years. As far as I can tell from his writing, he's no Christian-basher (unlike what's-his-name in Minnesota), so I don't know why anyone would suggest he "wouldn't recognize good theology if I spammed him with it."

I actually agree with him... Creationism is bad science and even worse theology.

Spam away!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Leaving aside all the usual Darwin-bashing yada for the moment, I&#039;d point out that Shermer was an Evangelical Christian for a number of years. As far as I can tell from his writing, he&#039;s no Christian-basher (unlike what&#039;s-his-name in Minnesota), so I don&#039;t know why anyone would suggest he &#034;wouldn&#039;t recognize good theology if I spammed him with it.&#034;</p>
<p>I actually agree with him&#8230; Creationism is bad science and even worse theology.</p>
<p>Spam away!</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: DonaldM</title>
		<link>http://telicthoughts.com/shermer-uses-evolution-to-support-the-religious-right/#comment-33292</link>
		<dc:creator>DonaldM</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Sep 2006 19:35:20 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://telicthoughts.com/?p=939#comment-33292</guid>
		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;What a romantic that Michael Shermer must be! Women must really dig it when he tells them "Wow, you look like you could produce a lot of fit offspring well suited for survival! Care to engage in some attachment and bonding?"&lt;/blockquote&gt;

"hey baby!  What engage in a little lateral gene transfer?!!!?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>What a romantic that Michael Shermer must be! Women must really dig it when he tells them &#034;Wow, you look like you could produce a lot of fit offspring well suited for survival! Care to engage in some attachment and bonding?&#034;</p></blockquote>
<p>&#034;hey baby!  What engage in a little lateral gene transfer?!!!?</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: chunkdz</title>
		<link>http://telicthoughts.com/shermer-uses-evolution-to-support-the-religious-right/#comment-33285</link>
		<dc:creator>chunkdz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Sep 2006 18:15:28 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://telicthoughts.com/?p=939#comment-33285</guid>
		<description>&lt;blockquote cite=""&gt;Or, a Christian could hug Shermer and say "God loves you, and so do I!" Darwin would approve!&lt;/blockquote&gt;
Yeah, but don't forget that 'love' (or as Shermer calls it - "attachment and bonding") is just an evolved survival mechanism!:wink:

What a romantic that Michael Shermer must be! Women must really dig it when he tells them "Wow, you look like you could produce a lot of fit offspring well suited for survival! Care to engage in some attachment and bonding?"</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote cite=""><p>Or, a Christian could hug Shermer and say &#034;God loves you, and so do I!&#034; Darwin would approve!</p></blockquote>
<p>Yeah, but don&#039;t forget that &#039;love&#039; (or as Shermer calls it - &#034;attachment and bonding&#034;) is just an evolved survival mechanism!:wink:</p>
<p>What a romantic that Michael Shermer must be! Women must really dig it when he tells them &#034;Wow, you look like you could produce a lot of fit offspring well suited for survival! Care to engage in some attachment and bonding?&#034;</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: DonaldM</title>
		<link>http://telicthoughts.com/shermer-uses-evolution-to-support-the-religious-right/#comment-33284</link>
		<dc:creator>DonaldM</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Sep 2006 17:59:59 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://telicthoughts.com/?p=939#comment-33284</guid>
		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Makes me want to go hug a Christian and say "Hey, man, Darwin loves you!!!"&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Or, a Christian could hug Shermer and say "God loves you, and so do I!"  Darwin would approve!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Makes me want to go hug a Christian and say &#034;Hey, man, Darwin loves you!!!&#034;</p></blockquote>
<p>Or, a Christian could hug Shermer and say &#034;God loves you, and so do I!&#034;  Darwin would approve!</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: chunkdz</title>
		<link>http://telicthoughts.com/shermer-uses-evolution-to-support-the-religious-right/#comment-33271</link>
		<dc:creator>chunkdz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Sep 2006 15:50:41 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://telicthoughts.com/?p=939#comment-33271</guid>
		<description>Makes me want to go hug a Christian and say "Hey, man, Darwin loves you!!!"</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Makes me want to go hug a Christian and say &#034;Hey, man, Darwin loves you!!!&#034;</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: hell&#8217;s handmaiden &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Evolution isn&#8217;t theology</title>
		<link>http://telicthoughts.com/shermer-uses-evolution-to-support-the-religious-right/#comment-33270</link>
		<dc:creator>hell&#8217;s handmaiden &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Evolution isn&#8217;t theology</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Sep 2006 15:46:39 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://telicthoughts.com/?p=939#comment-33270</guid>
		<description>[...] Several creationist/ID sites have recently posted articles concerning evolution&#8217;s compatibility with religion. Dembski&#8217;s weblog posted Darwinism: A House Divided&#8211; an article about the split between those &#8216;Darwinists&#8217; who think evolution is compatible with religion and those &#8216;Darwinists&#8217; who think it is not&#8211; a few days ago, and now Telic Thoughts has posted Shermer Uses Evolution to Support the Religious Right&#8211; an article written by Micheal Shermer, whose work I enjoy, for Scientific American, a magazine I adore. It is this last article I intend to address. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Several creationist/ID sites have recently posted articles concerning evolution&#039;s compatibility with religion. Dembski&#039;s weblog posted Darwinism: A House Divided&#8211; an article about the split between those &#039;Darwinists&#039; who think evolution is compatible with religion and those &#039;Darwinists&#039; who think it is not&#8211; a few days ago, and now Telic Thoughts has posted Shermer Uses Evolution to Support the Religious Right&#8211; an article written by Micheal Shermer, whose work I enjoy, for Scientific American, a magazine I adore. It is this last article I intend to address. [...]</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: TomG</title>
		<link>http://telicthoughts.com/shermer-uses-evolution-to-support-the-religious-right/#comment-33267</link>
		<dc:creator>TomG</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Sep 2006 15:13:39 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://telicthoughts.com/?p=939#comment-33267</guid>
		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;"The watchmaker God of intelligent-design ... is just a genetic engineer slightly more advanced than we are. An omniscient and omnipotent God must be above such humanlike constraints."&lt;/blockquote&gt;
I'm curious how he discovered that a God must be like that. Did he poll the field?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>&#034;The watchmaker God of intelligent-design &#8230; is just a genetic engineer slightly more advanced than we are. An omniscient and omnipotent God must be above such humanlike constraints.&#034;</p></blockquote>
<p>I&#039;m curious how he discovered that a God must be like that. Did he poll the field?</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
</channel>
</rss>
