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	<title>Comments on: &#034;The new Dark Ages are upon us!&#034;</title>
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		<title>By: Mung</title>
		<link>http://telicthoughts.com/the-new-dark-ages-are-upon-us/#comment-19101</link>
		<dc:creator>Mung</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 May 2006 23:05:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;...religious fundamentalism is on the rise around the world, and our own virulent domestic version of it, under the rubric of "intelligent design," by elbowing its way into the classroom abrogates the divide between church and state that has served this country so well for so long. Moreover, the intelligent-design (ID) movement imperils American global dominance in science and in so doing presents the gravest of threats to the American economy, which is driven by advances in science and in the technology derived therefrom.

  This book ... is a thoughtful response to the bizarre claims made by the ID movement's advocates, whose only interest in science appears to be to replace it with beliefs consistent with those of the Middle Ages. School districts across the country - most notably in Kansas and later in Pennsylvania, where the anti-evolutionist tide  was turned but undoubtedly not stopped - have been besieged by demands to "teach the debate," to "present the controversy," when, in actuality, there is no debate, no controversy.

 - John Brockman in &lt;i&gt;Intelligent Thought: Science Versus the Intelligent Design Movement&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Makes me wonder if their real motives aren't driven by their global dominance and economic interests. Of course, I am sure Darwinism can explain their selfishness.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>&#8230;religious fundamentalism is on the rise around the world, and our own virulent domestic version of it, under the rubric of &#034;intelligent design,&#034; by elbowing its way into the classroom abrogates the divide between church and state that has served this country so well for so long. Moreover, the intelligent-design (ID) movement imperils American global dominance in science and in so doing presents the gravest of threats to the American economy, which is driven by advances in science and in the technology derived therefrom.</p>
<p>  This book &#8230; is a thoughtful response to the bizarre claims made by the ID movement&#039;s advocates, whose only interest in science appears to be to replace it with beliefs consistent with those of the Middle Ages. School districts across the country - most notably in Kansas and later in Pennsylvania, where the anti-evolutionist tide  was turned but undoubtedly not stopped - have been besieged by demands to &#034;teach the debate,&#034; to &#034;present the controversy,&#034; when, in actuality, there is no debate, no controversy.</p>
<p> - John Brockman in <i>Intelligent Thought: Science Versus the Intelligent Design Movement</i></p></blockquote>
<p>Makes me wonder if their real motives aren&#039;t driven by their global dominance and economic interests. Of course, I am sure Darwinism can explain their selfishness.</p>
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		<title>By: Mung</title>
		<link>http://telicthoughts.com/the-new-dark-ages-are-upon-us/#comment-19065</link>
		<dc:creator>Mung</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 May 2006 14:45:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;There are examples in history of the collapse of great civilizations. There is no particular reason that the United States should be exempt from historical forces The Visigoths are at the gates. Will we let them in?

 - John Brockman in &lt;i&gt;Intelligent Thought: Science Versus the Intelligent Design Movement&lt;/i&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>There are examples in history of the collapse of great civilizations. There is no particular reason that the United States should be exempt from historical forces The Visigoths are at the gates. Will we let them in?</p>
<p> - John Brockman in <i>Intelligent Thought: Science Versus the Intelligent Design Movement</i>
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		<title>By: edarrell</title>
		<link>http://telicthoughts.com/the-new-dark-ages-are-upon-us/#comment-18403</link>
		<dc:creator>edarrell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 May 2006 02:48:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Question: If you believe intelligent design is nothing but a fundamentalist plot to bring back the Dark Ages, what's the chance that you'll be able to be evaluate the issue objectively? &lt;/blockquote&gt;

That's there for irony value only, right?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Question: If you believe intelligent design is nothing but a fundamentalist plot to bring back the Dark Ages, what&#039;s the chance that you&#039;ll be able to be evaluate the issue objectively? </p></blockquote>
<p>That&#039;s there for irony value only, right?</p>
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		<title>By: Douglas</title>
		<link>http://telicthoughts.com/the-new-dark-ages-are-upon-us/#comment-18325</link>
		<dc:creator>Douglas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 May 2006 20:20:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;These Christian fundamentalist pyschotics are so power-mad, they will stop at nothing: Willful ignorance, intimidation, and supression of information are their tools!   Intelligent design, absence-only sex-ed; the new Dark Ages are upon us!&lt;/blockquote&gt;
He apparently forgot "bigoted anti-science agendas".  It's on page 3 of the Christian Fundamentalist Constitution.  We are ready to give our lives to ruin all the fun for non-Creationists.

&lt;blockquote&gt;Intelligent design, absence-only sex-ed; the new Dark Ages are upon us!&lt;/blockquote&gt;
We prefer to call it, "The New Enlightenment, in Reverse".</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>These Christian fundamentalist pyschotics are so power-mad, they will stop at nothing: Willful ignorance, intimidation, and supression of information are their tools!   Intelligent design, absence-only sex-ed; the new Dark Ages are upon us!</p></blockquote>
<p>He apparently forgot &#034;bigoted anti-science agendas&#034;.  It&#039;s on page 3 of the Christian Fundamentalist Constitution.  We are ready to give our lives to ruin all the fun for non-Creationists.</p>
<blockquote><p>Intelligent design, absence-only sex-ed; the new Dark Ages are upon us!</p></blockquote>
<p>We prefer to call it, &#034;The New Enlightenment, in Reverse&#034;.</p>
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		<title>By: macht</title>
		<link>http://telicthoughts.com/the-new-dark-ages-are-upon-us/#comment-18297</link>
		<dc:creator>macht</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 May 2006 16:16:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>"The Bad Touch" seems more appropriate for the subject of evolution/ID.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#034;The Bad Touch&#034; seems more appropriate for the subject of evolution/ID.</p>
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		<title>By: Guts</title>
		<link>http://telicthoughts.com/the-new-dark-ages-are-upon-us/#comment-18296</link>
		<dc:creator>Guts</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 May 2006 16:15:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This reminds me of when some actors wade into politics, they end up looking pretty ignorant.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This reminds me of when some actors wade into politics, they end up looking pretty ignorant.</p>
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		<title>By: Krauze</title>
		<link>http://telicthoughts.com/the-new-dark-ages-are-upon-us/#comment-18294</link>
		<dc:creator>Krauze</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 May 2006 16:09:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Macht,

&lt;em&gt;"You should all listen to Henry Rollins. He used to be in a rock band."&lt;/em&gt;

When it comes to anti-religious rants, he should take a clue from &lt;a href="http://www.azlyrics.com/lyrics/bloodhoundgang/hellyeah.html" rel="nofollow"&gt;Jimmy Pop&lt;/a&gt;, in my uninformed opinion the most talented lyrics composer alive right now.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Macht,</p>
<p><em>&#034;You should all listen to Henry Rollins. He used to be in a rock band.&#034;</em></p>
<p>When it comes to anti-religious rants, he should take a clue from <a href="http://www.azlyrics.com/lyrics/bloodhoundgang/hellyeah.html" rel="nofollow">Jimmy Pop</a>, in my uninformed opinion the most talented lyrics composer alive right now.</p>
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		<title>By: macht</title>
		<link>http://telicthoughts.com/the-new-dark-ages-are-upon-us/#comment-18293</link>
		<dc:creator>macht</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 May 2006 16:08:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes, Tom, that's him.  I'm waiting for Ted Nugent to come out in support of ID.  He seems like an ID kind of guy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, Tom, that&#039;s him.  I&#039;m waiting for Ted Nugent to come out in support of ID.  He seems like an ID kind of guy.</p>
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		<title>By: TomG</title>
		<link>http://telicthoughts.com/the-new-dark-ages-are-upon-us/#comment-18290</link>
		<dc:creator>TomG</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 May 2006 15:21:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Is &lt;a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Henry_Rollins" rel="nofollow"&gt;this&lt;/a&gt; the Henry Rollins who is speaking here? If so then this is just another one of those random rants that has little importance other than entertainment. That the ASU professor supports it speaks more to his own lack of judgment than it does to whether ID is valid.

Oh, and the first comment on the Professor's blog is quite the classic example of advancing the argument. (It's the comment by mythusmage. We'll see if it stays there very long.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Is <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Henry_Rollins" rel="nofollow">this</a> the Henry Rollins who is speaking here? If so then this is just another one of those random rants that has little importance other than entertainment. That the ASU professor supports it speaks more to his own lack of judgment than it does to whether ID is valid.</p>
<p>Oh, and the first comment on the Professor&#039;s blog is quite the classic example of advancing the argument. (It&#039;s the comment by mythusmage. We&#039;ll see if it stays there very long.)</p>
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		<title>By: macht</title>
		<link>http://telicthoughts.com/the-new-dark-ages-are-upon-us/#comment-18288</link>
		<dc:creator>macht</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 May 2006 15:12:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nope, he's just an &lt;a href="http://www.starpulse.com/news/index.php/2006/04/20/henry_rollins_still_an_angry_man" rel="nofollow"&gt;angry man&lt;/a&gt;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nope, he&#039;s just an <a href="http://www.starpulse.com/news/index.php/2006/04/20/henry_rollins_still_an_angry_man" rel="nofollow">angry man</a>.</p>
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