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Trying Not to be Stupid

by MikeGene

The Journal of Clinical Investigation describes itself as "a top-tier journal publishing biologically significant findings with clinical relevance." Ushma S. Neill, the Executive Editor of the journal, has given us a fresh editorial entitled, "Don't be stupid about intelligent design."

Let's not be stupid, okay? Let's learn from the experts.

After making sure the political prism is firmly in place, along with a few weak arguments, Neill writes, "As the onus is on us to make sure we are well informed, let us go over several intelligent design myths about how evolution is not able to explain our current state."

Okay, so here are the arguments that, according to Neill, are being proposed by ID:

1. Evolution is only a theory, and not fact. [1]
2. We can't see evolution occurring before our eyes.
3. Mutations only eliminate traits and cannot produce new features.

Anyone who has followed this debate for some time knows these are not the standard ID arguments; these are typical creationist arguments. And that should not surprise anyone, as Neill admits getting these "ID" arguments from John Rennie's [2] article entitled, "15 answers to creationist nonsense." In other words, the executive editor of JCI is out to inform others from a position of misinformation. Instead of quoting and citing from ID authors (like Dembski and Behe), Neill borrows from an anti-creationist article in a popular science magazine.

Neill then adds:

An oft-cited, specious argument regards how life at the microscopic level is too intricate to have evolved. In particular, they point to the example of bacterial flagellum, with its intricate, interdependent motor proteins that couldn't possibly have formed by evolution.

Okay, I guess that's a workable, albeit sloppy, way of presenting the IC argument about the bacterial flagellum. But let's consider the responses:

However, not all flagellum are complicated,

Er, that's "not all flagella are complicated." Not all editor are confused. Unfortunately, Neill doesn't cite examples of these non-complicated flagellum flagella.

and not all components are required for the appendage to work.

That depends on how you define "˜work.' If we focus on flagella as motility structures, well, removal of only one of the 20-or-so parts (shared by all bacteria with flagella) does eliminate this function.

And many of the proteins are present elsewhere in the body.

Someone needs to inform the executive editor of JCI that bacteria don't have bodies.

Summary - the article begins with the alarm cry and then ends with the call to action. Standard propaganda tactic. The only reason it is worth commenting on is where it appears.

What is useful about such editorials is that you, the readers, get to see the "peer reviewers" in action. Always remember that these are the people who are supposed to have this magical ability to objectively review the ID arguments. Had they kept quiet, a few of you may have bought into that argument. Let's hope for some more editorials; more data are good. :)

1. Neill adds, "However, the National Academy of Sciences defines a scientific theory as a "well-substantiated explanation . . . that can incorporate facts, laws, inferences, and tested hypotheses." Readers may want to think what's behind these appeals to authority here.

2. John Rennie is an editor for Scientific American who attacked university presidents as "cowards" because they wouldn't agree to deny a college education to students who did not sufficiently learn about evolution in high school.

[BTW: Neill also writes, "The science curriculum is being changed to incorporate intelligent design in Ohio, New Mexico, Minnesota, Kansas, and Pennsylvania "” it is important to make sure this does not spread to other states, and that it is overturned in the states where it is taught." Can a critic please tell me where intelligent design is being taught and how is it being taught? Thanks.]

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7 Responses to “Trying Not to be Stupid”

  1. Joe G Says:
    October 27th, 2005 at 10:47 pm

    It is that this sort of article is being published that ID needs to be taught.

    IC appears to be the least understood, yet nicely defined, concept going. It isn't that evolution can't account for IC systems. It is that there isn't anything to select for until the system is configured and in place. IOW IC violates the concept of natural selection. We all know what artificial selection can do- let's see NS create a toy poodle.

    As for ID being taught- Neill undoubtedly wants it as wiped clean as Iran wants to do to Israel. Being "taught" to this ilk means allowing people to understand what ID really is and that religion has nothing to do with it.

    I wonder if they will print my response?

  2. Comment by Joe G — October 27, 2005 @ 10:47 pm

  3. willo Says:
    October 27th, 2005 at 11:34 pm

    Great article thanks Mike, keep this sort of exposure up and methinks Neill and his cronies are going to have to change their tactic sooner or later.

    btw I thought point 3 was one of the arguments used by idist in their general critique of NDE.

  4. Comment by willo — October 27, 2005 @ 11:34 pm

  5. Krauze Says:
    October 28th, 2005 at 7:50 am

    ID critic Tara Smith of Aetiology is also scratching her head over Neill's claim that "many of the proteins are present elsewhere in the body", and suggests that Neill confused the bacterial flagellum with the eukaryotic flagellum. Looks like someone also has to inform the executive editor of JCI that bacterial flagella are fundamentally different from eukaryotic flagella.

  6. Comment by Krauze — October 28, 2005 @ 7:50 am

  7. AdR Says:
    October 28th, 2005 at 8:17 am

    "It is time for educated, motivated scientists to get involved and to educate others."

    I think it's time for educated, motivated scientists to recognize that neodarwinism is not able to produce useful theories about evolution.

    It is also interesting to see how scientists that do not have a clue about evolution (BTW, 99% of scientists have never thought about the molecular details about evolution), still find that they should defend their failed theories.

  8. Comment by AdR — October 28, 2005 @ 8:17 am

  9. TomG Says:
    October 28th, 2005 at 9:47 am

    I just want to leave a word of appreciation for the sense of humor you consistently bring to this issue, without being mean-spirited about it. (You can probably think of one or two evolution-oriented websites where "mean-spirited" is not lacking.) Yesterday's post was another good example. Yes, students, good thinking can be fun!

  10. Comment by TomG — October 28, 2005 @ 9:47 am

  11. Fer Says:
    October 28th, 2005 at 7:11 pm

    Now I think that Ushma S. Neill needs to eat the soup of his own plate!

  12. Comment by Fer — October 28, 2005 @ 7:11 pm

  13. MikeGene Says:
    October 28th, 2005 at 11:42 pm

    Krauze:

    ID critic Tara Smith of Aetiology is also scratching her head over Neill's claim that "many of the proteins are present elsewhere in the body", and suggests that Neill confused the bacterial flagellum with the eukaryotic flagellum. Looks like someone also has to inform the executive editor of JCI that bacterial flagella are fundamentally different from eukaryotic flagella.

    Charitable interpretations come free if you play for the right team. More scientific objectivity on display. LOL.

  14. Comment by MikeGene — October 28, 2005 @ 11:42 pm

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