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        • Tom MH wrote in A New Book: ID guy: You cannot have a nested hierarchy if traits can be lost.You can form nested hierarchies on the basis of the traits you can observe — taxonomics. Common...


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                • olegt wrote in Peer Review: Bradford, Suzan Mazur is an amateur who does not have the slightest idea about the subject. Why should I take her seriously?


                    • Bradford wrote in Peer Review: On second thought, maybe we should ask Bilbo to add his perspective on peer review and 9/11 Or attack Suzan Mazur. As if that addresses the article itself. :roll:


                        • olegt wrote in Peer Review: Of course. Get your own damn journals and publish there. It’s a free world.


                            • Bradford wrote in Peer Review: Conspiring to punish a journal that had published some peer-reviewed papers by skeptics: “I think we have to stop considering Climate Research as a legitimate...


                                • olegt wrote in Peer Review: Bradford, Let me reiterate my advice. Keep this thread clear of climate change. You have plenty of other topics dedicated to that. On second thought, maybe we should...


                                    • Bradford wrote in Peer Review: A lesson of ClimateGate is that the value of peer review is recognized albeit in a perverted way. A paper passing peer review, which the ClimateGaters found...


                                        • olegt wrote in Peer Review: That’s a juicy sound bite, Bradford, but I am afraid there is nothing sinister in the quote when you provide the context. Here it is: This is from an Australian...


                                            • Bradford wrote in Peer Review: Discussion of trying to influence journal editorial policy to prevent publication of skeptical papers: “One approach is to go direct to the publishers and point out...


                                                • Bradford wrote in Peer Review: “The scientific community would come down on me in no uncertain terms if I said the world had cooled from 1998.” -Phil Jones, Former Director of the...


                                                    • Bradford wrote in Peer Review: Olegt: Jones’s story has nothing to do with peer review. Listen to Michael.


                                                        • Bert wrote in Peer Review: Most scientists see no reason to aggressively promote or defend their theories, and most scientists don‘t expend much effort trying to impose their theories upon the...


                                                            • Zachriel wrote in A New Book: ID guy: Spoken like an asshole. After all, humans are 'just' elaborated Deuterostomes. A tube with appendages to stuff food into one end. Microevolution. Zachriel:...


                                                                • Salvador T. Cordova wrote in Peer Review: Sal, Where is the flaw in Fenselstein’s argument? I think he got it right: the offspring of the initial 10% with the good allele will keep...


                                                                    • olegt wrote in Peer Review: Jones’s story has nothing to do with peer review. The gist of the article is that he feels hounded by the climate skeptics who would stop at nothing, including...


                                                                        • Zachriel wrote in About ‘What Darwin Got Wrong’: ID guy: For example reptiles and mammals are different nested groupings. The old Linnaean classification “Reptiles̶ 1; is...


                                                                            • Bradford wrote in Peer Review: As long as whacks are being taken at some what do we make of this? Jones, 57, said he was unprepared for the scandal: “I am just a scientist. I have no training in...


                                                                                • ID guy wrote in Peer Review: The Altenberg 16 story was over-the-top conspiratory. Or just a case of evolutionary paranoia… :mrgreen:


                                                                                    • olegt wrote in Peer Review: Sal, Where is the flaw in Fenselstein’s argument? I think he got it right: the offspring of the initial 10% with the good allele will keep reproducing forever and...


                                                                                        • olegt wrote in Peer Review: I dunno. The Altenberg 16 story was over-the-top conspiratory.


                                                                                            • Salvador T. Cordova wrote in Peer Review: Here is a specific case where a world class geneticist Joe Felsenstein made a very dubious criticism of something submitted to peer-review by Walter...


                                                                                                • Bradford wrote in Peer Review: Mazur has been referenced before at TT and without much objection to the points made in her articles. That’s the difficulty with painting someone with a broad...


                                                                                                    • olegt wrote in Peer Review: John, Not sure I understand your question: why does any of what matter?


                                                                                                        • ID guy wrote in Peer Review: trollegt, You are free to read the stories written by evolutionuts and I am also free to laugh at you for finding them credible.


                                                                                                            • JOHN_A_DESIGNER wrote in Peer Review: My whole point, olegt, is: Why does any of this matter?


                                                                                                                • ID guy wrote in Unconventional and Fun: fine, there is horizontal transfer of prions Of course there is. I wouldn’t have said that if there wasn’t.


                                                                                                                    • olegt wrote in Peer Review: John, You’re reading too much into my comments. I didn’t say that Suzan Mazur was on the DI payroll. I said she was not a reliable source. You’re free...


                                                                                                                        • olegt wrote in Unconventional and Fun: Joe, fine, there is horizontal transfer of prions, but it’s still irrelevant to the subject discussed here.


                                                                                                                            • JOHN_A_DESIGNER wrote in Peer Review: This whole culture war thing strikes me as rather cartoonish. Let me get this straight: olegt, Matzke et al. are ridiculing people because their thinking is...


                                                                                                                                • ID guy wrote in Unconventional and Fun: trollegt: Nature 425, 35 – 36 (04 September 2003); doi:10.1038/425035a Prion disease: Horizontal prion transmission in mule deer See also prions pages...


                                                                                                                                    • Salvador T. Cordova wrote in Unconventional and Fun: From my old Abstract Algebra class text by Joseph A. Gallian: Contemporary Abstract Algebra, there was no mention of Lie-Groups or E8. :cry: ...


                                                                                                                                        • ID guy wrote in Unconventional and Fun: Do prions enter the host via vertical transfer as from parents to offspring? No. Are they transferred from one organism to another without sex? Yes. Would...


                                                                                                                                            • ID guy wrote in Unconventional and Fun: trollegt, I know what HGT is. Horizontal transfer is a term made up this morning Nope. Horizontal transfer is what happens with prions. Heredity by contact....


                                                                                                                                                • ID guy wrote in About ‘What Darwin Got Wrong’: Transitional forms have a mix of characteristics. They have inherited characteristics, and derived characteristics. They have a mix. For...


                                                                                                                                                    • olegt wrote in Unconventional and Fun: Joe, Horizontal gene transfer is a technical term used by biologists. It has a specific meaning, which you have been unable to grasp so far. Horizontal...


                                                                                                                                                        • Zachriel wrote in About ‘What Darwin Got Wrong’: ID guy: Transitional forms have a mix of characteristics. They have inherited characteristics, and derived characteristics. ID guy: Do...


                                                                                                                                                            • ID guy wrote in A New Book: Noted again: you show no interest in actual biology. Spoken like an asshole. I don’t have any interest in discussing anything with you. You are willfully ignorant...


                                                                                                                                                                • ID guy wrote in About ‘What Darwin Got Wrong’: Yes your continued lying is unacceptable discourse. So wise up… Or what? Banishment? That does nothing to further your credibility or...


                                                                                                                                                                    • Zachriel wrote in A New Book: Zachriel: What are the defining traits of reptiles? ID guy: Look it up. Noted again: you show no interest in actual biology. Anyone truly interested in the...


                                                                                                                                                                        • ID guy wrote in About ‘What Darwin Got Wrong’: Zachriel, The confusion is all yours. Transitional forms have a mix of characteristics. THAT is the very nature of transitional forms....


                                                                                                                                                                            • ID guy wrote in Unconventional and Fun: trollegt, You must be taking a large dose of stupid pills today- Horizontal transfer is not horizontal gene transfer. Prions are transferred horizontally-...


                                                                                                                                                                                • Zachriel wrote in About ‘What Darwin Got Wrong’: Potential Falsification: It would be very problematic if many species were found that combined characteristics of different nested...


                                                                                                                                                                                    • ID guy wrote in A New Book: Is it a trait that DEFINES the Class? Perhaps you can tell us how you are using the term. What term? Each level in the classification has a set of definitions. Each set...


                                                                                                                                                                                        • olegt wrote in Unconventional and Fun: Joe’s opinions fluctuate very quickly in time. They undergo a phase change of 180 degrees in about 2 hours. 9:38 am: Also we have mad-cow’s...


                                                                                                                                                                                            • Zachriel wrote in A New Book: ID guy: Is it a trait that DEFINES the Class? Perhaps you can tell us how you are using the term. Are you referring to Linnaean Taxonomy? What are the defining traits...


                                                                                                                                                                                                • ID guy wrote in Is Victor Stenger Right about Fine-Tuning?: Bilbo, Methinks he misses the point. The point being where/ how did those parameters arise in the first place?


                                                                                                                                                                                                    • ID guy wrote in Unconventional and Fun: trollegt, I didn’t say mad cow was an example of HGT. It is an example of heredity by contact. And if a virus leaves behind genes in a human (or other...


                                                                                                                                                                                                        • ID guy wrote in Peer Review: trollegt links to an article by Nick Matzke- crank extraordinaire. :mrgreen: Nick misrepresents ID every time he posts about it and talks about it.


                                                                                                                                                                                                            • ID guy wrote in Peer Review: trollegt, Why don’t you guys publish something in peer-review that supports the contention that all living organisms are related via blind, non-goal oriented...


                                                                                                                                                                                                                • ID guy wrote in About ‘What Darwin Got Wrong’: Zachriel, Yes your continued lying is unacceptable discourse. So wise up…


                                                                                                                                                                                                                    • ID guy wrote in About ‘What Darwin Got Wrong’: Zachriel: From Darwin to the present, biologists say that transitional forms are consistent with the nested hierarchy and Common Descent....


                                                                                                                                                                                                                        • Salvador T. Cordova wrote in Peer Review: Olegt: Tell you what, guys. Why don’t you stop bitching about peer review, bypass it altogether and publish ID research in your own...


                                                                                                                                                                                                                            • ID guy wrote in A New Book: Note that you didn’t respond about vertebrate embryos. I don’t do science via pictures. And I don’t play games with tards.


                                                                                                                                                                                                                                • ID guy wrote in A New Book: Zachriel: Yet cetaceans are mammals without four limbs (at least in the adult form). They are missing a trait common to the class. Is it a trait that DEFINES the Class?...


                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    • Bradford wrote in Peer Review: Zach: Do you have substantiation for this claim? Or did they just have trouble finding a publisher? How did colleagues attempt to silence them? I’ll send an...


                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        • Zachriel wrote in Peer Review: Jerry Fodor and Massimo Piattelli-Palmarini report colleagues attempted to silence them from publishing in their new book that Darwin’s claim was wrong about...


                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            • Bradford wrote in Peer Review: Olegt: Let me point everyone to one such place, which contains tons of articles and online discussions. Peer Review Debate at Nature.com. Whew. For a minute I...


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Peer Review

Posted in Scandals, Science on February 8th, 2010 by Bradford

The Peer Review Prison, by Suzan Mazur, contains some strongly worded remarks. One side effect of ClimateGate is a refocus on the matter of peer review. From the article:

Jerry Fodor and Massimo Piattelli-Palmarini report colleagues attempted to silence them from publishing in their new book that Darwin's claim was wrong about natural selection. Some of these dark forces afflicting Fodor were brought to light in a chapter in my own book The Altenberg 16: An Expose of the Evolution Industry.

If the reference to Jerry Fodor and Massimo Piattelli-Palmarini sounds familiar to Telic Thoughts readers it is likely due to this. More:

Why not just thrash these ideas out in the open as in other professional fields and properly pay scientists to write reviews instead of sending the journal money off to Wiley? Maybe then science referees (reviewers) would take time from their academic responsibilities to actually read papers submitted – particularly those from the unaffiliated.

Good question.

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Is Victor Stenger Right about Fine-Tuning?

Posted in Fine-tuning on February 7th, 2010 by Bilbo

Recently I discovered that Victor Stenger, emeritus professor of physics and astronomy at the University of Hawaii and adjunct professor of philosophy at the University of Colorado [why leave Hawaii?], is an outspoken critic of the fine-tuned universe argument. A little of what he has to say in his book, God, the Failed Hypothesis:

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Unconventional and Fun

Posted in Science on February 6th, 2010 by Bradford

Not all physicists live in ivory towers. Some prefer fun in the sun and surfing the waves. From the link:

The Maui-based science prodigy (Garrett Lisi) turned the rarefied world of theoretical physics on its ear with a jaw-gaping paper, the audaciously titled An Exceptionally Simple Theory of Everything.

Lisi is a bit out of the ordinary:

He has a Ph.D. and, to that extent, is no outsider. But he has no academic affiliation, let alone tenure.

I think I might like this guy. Lisi, who published his paper in arXiv, is quoted:

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Channeling Religious Impulses

Posted in Religion on February 6th, 2010 by Bradford

The Navhind Times carries a story about a decision by the government of India to have a climate change panel of its own and not depend on the beleaguered UN Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change. I love this quote from Union Environment Minister, Mr Jairam Ramesh:

There is a fine line between climate science and climate evangelism. I am all for climate science but not for climate evangelism.

Climate evangelism. :mrgreen: How apropos.

Evangelism has a religious ring to it. That would come as no surprise to James Bowman, author of Creation. Judeo-Christian scriptures contain an story of global catastrophe. Of course we are much too sophisticated for ancient views of good and evil and Noah's flood. Now we speak of the size of your environmental footprint and environmental catastrophes resulting from global warming. Government regulations will rescue us if we can just rid ourselves of denialist influences. Quoting from The American Spectator article:

It will come as no news to readers of The American Spectator that science is now no longer just science but has become a religion-substitute for a large number of Americans. This faith, perhaps, claims even a majority of those in some other liberal democracies of the West. And if science, and its political arm, environmentalism, is the new religion, Charles Darwin is its Christ figure, despised and rejected of (theist) men and persecuted for the Truth he sought to bring to set men free of their inherited chains. These are not the bonds of sin and death but of the superstition and ignorance which supposes the world to have had any Creator at all or any Redeemer other than Darwin himself. That is what we mean by myth: a story that explains the world, whether or not the story happens to be true, and the Darwinist myth now comes closer to an explanation that people are prepared to accept than any other since the Redemptive history in the Christian interpretation of the Bible.

Kindly genuflect before reading the linked article and gird yourself against the blasphemous comments of the infidel Bowman.

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About 'What Darwin Got Wrong'

Posted in Books, Evolution, Natural Selection on February 3rd, 2010 by Bradford

Jerry Fodor and Massimo Piattelli-Palmarini authored Survival of the fittest theory: Darwinism's limits. The article touches on some points raised in the thread A New Book. From the piece:

Much of the vast neo-Darwinian literature is distressingly uncritical. The possibility that anything is seriously amiss with Darwin's account of evolution is hardly considered. Such dissent as there is often relies on theistic premises which Darwinists rightly say have no place in the evaluation of scientific theories. So onlookers are left with the impression that there is little or nothing about Darwin's theory to which a scientific naturalist could reasonably object. The methodological scepticism that characterises most areas of scientific discourse seems strikingly absent when Darwinism is the topic.

Indeed.

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New Study Contradicts the 'Metabolism First' Hypothesis

Posted in Origin of Life on February 2nd, 2010 by Bilbo

From this Science Daily article:

A new study published in Proceedings of National Academy of Sciences rejects the theory that the origin of life stems from a system of self-catalytic molecules capable of experiencing Darwinian evolution without the need of RNA or DNA and their replication.

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A New Book

Posted in Books, Intelligent Design, Natural Selection on February 2nd, 2010 by Bradford

Disproving the Notion of Random Chance in Evolution is an Oxford University Press blog entry. The first paragraph:

Advocates of Intelligent Design contend that complex biological features cannot arise by chance, the implication being that chance equates to sentient forces. From a scientific vantage, however, the driving force of adaptive evolution–natural selection– is itself the antithesis of chance. Hereditary factors that promote organismal survival and reproduction in a particular environment tend to be precisely those that proliferate across the generations and thereby come to characterize natural populations. Whenever genetic variation and differential reproduction exist in nature (as they do in all known species), natural selection is inevitable, both logically and empirically. Biological traits that emerge from this inexorable operation may have the superficial aura of intelligent artistry, but that appearance is illusory (under a scientific interpretation). Natural selection can be a highly creative process (given a suitable supply of genetic variation to work from), but it is merely a mechanistic phenomenon– as inescapable and insentient as gravity.

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Open Thread: Raven

Posted in Random Stuff on February 1st, 2010 by Bradford

Raven

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On Falk's Response to Meyer

Posted in Books, Natural Selection, Origin of Life on January 31st, 2010 by Bradford

I do not believe, as Dr. Meyer asserts, that he is unqualified—quite the opposite. He is likely more qualified as a philosopher than I am as a scientist. Furthermore, I guarantee you that if I was venturing into his discipline, I would have little of value to say. Dr. Meyer has ventured into my discipline, biology. He is not highly qualified as a biologist, but he’s ventured in anyway. Fair enough. Since he is a great communicator, we should be able to analyze the quality of his arguments.

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It should be pointed out at this juncture that the biological points made by Darrel Falk in his exchanges with Meyer are easily understood by most freshman students in biology. I have a daughter who is a freshman and an intending major in biology who has no difficulty following Falk's points. Of course Falk might maintain that his deeper understanding would confound both Meyer and my daughter and account for any divergence of views but in what follows I'll show that to be a mistaken assumption.

In Meyer’s response to my review, he made a very strong statement. I am amazed that someone who is really smart and equally sincere could make it, but here it is

First, intelligent agents have demonstrated the capacity to produce large amounts of functionally specified information (especially in a digital form). Second, no undirected chemical process has demonstrated this power. Hence, intelligent design provides the best—most causally adequate—explanation for the origin of the information necessary to produce the first life from simpler non-living chemicals. In other words, intelligent design is the only explanation that cites a cause known to have the capacity to produce the key effect in question. (Emphasis added)

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Slicing and Dicing Falk: Part Two

Posted in Books, Origin of Life, RNA on January 31st, 2010 by Bradford

Stephen Meyer, author of Signature in the Cell wrote Response to Darrel Falk’s Review of Signature in the Cell. A prior post focused on the first few paragraphs. Continuing with the article:

Falk first cites a scientific study published last spring after my book was in press. The paper, authored by University of Manchester chemist John Sutherland and two colleagues, does partially address one of the many outstanding difficulties associated the RNA world, the most popular current theory about the origin of the first life.

Starting with a 3-carbon sugar (D-gylceraldehyde), and another molecule called 2-aminooxazole, Sutherland successfully synthesized a 5-carbon sugar in association with a base and a phosphate group. In other words, he produced a ribonucleotide. The scientific press justifiably heralded this as a breakthrough in pre-biotic chemistry because previously chemists had thought (as I noted in my book) that the conditions under which ribose and bases could be synthesized were starkly incompatible with each other.

Nevertheless, Sutherland’s work does not refute the central argument of my book, nor does it support the claim that it is premature to conclude that only intelligent agents have demonstrated the power to produce functionally-specified information. If anything, it illustrates the reverse.

Very true. Sutherland's work is causally inadequate as an explanatory model for the issues raised in Meyer's book.

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Intelligent Slime Mold

Posted in Random Stuff on January 30th, 2010 by Bilbo

"Reasons to Believe" e-mailed this one to me, and I had to pass it on.

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Too Hot to Handle

Posted in Scandals, The Critics on January 29th, 2010 by Bradford

In two prior posts we witness two individuals sympathetic to intelligent design attacked based on their views. John A. Designer said it well in this comment. JAD:

Even if Berlinski is a crank and Meyer is unqualified, as olegt and Falk respectively claim, it doesn’t change the fact that there are devastating criticisms of the so-called “RNA world” or “RNA first” hypothesis. Indeed, if neither Berlinski or Meyer had said anything on the subject you would still have the criticisms to seriously challenge the viability of the hypothesis.

JAD makes a good point but as I thought about the criticism I was reminded that whether or not someone is the object of degrading comments can relate to what it is their arguments or cited data are intended to support. For example, would Professors Olegt and Falk and notorious critic Matzke like to continue their critiques against scientists who merit some bashing. Let's see. Dr Rajendra Pachauri admitted that a 2007 report, indicating that Himalayan glaciers could disappear by 2035, lacked a scientific basis and that its inclusion in a report resulted from improper procedures.

HT: Clare

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Slicing and Dicing Falk: Part One

Posted in Books, Origin of Life, The Critics on January 28th, 2010 by Bradford

Stephen Meyer, author of Signature in the Cell wrote Response to Darrel Falk’s Review of Signature in the Cell. From the article:

Nevertheless, in his recent review on the Biologos website, Prof. Darrel Falk characterizes me as merely a well-meaning, but ultimately unqualified, philosopher and religious believer who lacks the scientific expertise to evaluate origin-of-life research and who, in any case, has overlooked the promise of recent pre-biotic simulation experiments.

I've seen no evidence that Meyer does not understand the biochemistry or cellular processes of which he alludes to in Signature in the Cell. I have not seen anyone point out specific errors that would indicate a lack of understanding. Citing the promise of recent experiments refers to a subjective assessment of what might be rather than confirmation of what is. It's the difference between speculation and solid scientific theory.

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Berlinski stirring the pot

Posted in Origin of Life, RNA on January 27th, 2010 by Bradford

Introducing David Berlinski:

Having with indignation rejected the assumption that the creation of life required an intelligent design, Mr Fletcher has persuaded himself that it has proceeded instead by means of various chemical scenarios.

These scenarios all require intelligent intervention. In his animadversions, Mr Fletcher suggests nothing so much as a man disposed to denounce alcohol while sipping sherry.

Heh, heh. Vintage Berlinski.

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Gravity and seven questions

Posted in Science on January 26th, 2010 by Bradford

A New Scientist article lists seven questions about gravity here. Each question links to another distinct article.

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