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        • Euphrates wrote in Fear: Looks like the lack of understanding is misplaced. Nah. Euphrates, the first cause would not be a mix of act/potency. It’s Pure Act, no potency. Let’s look at...


            • GringoRoyale wrote in Fear: Euphrates said: “To say that Aquinas’ cosmological arguments can be used to establish a first cause that is a mix of act/potency is just plain wrong and...


                • angryoldfatman wrote in Can a moral relativist be trusted?: http://cheezburger.c om/View/2101731584


                    • angryoldfatman wrote in Can a moral relativist be trusted?: velikovskys wrote: Apologies, you do view the fringe gnus as a threat to organized religion. That is surprising. I was the one who was...


                        • chunkdz wrote in Can a moral relativist be trusted?: Prej•u•dice noun a (1) : preconceived judgment or opinion (2) : an adverse opinion or leaning formed without just grounds or before sufficient...


                            • chunkdz wrote in Can a moral relativist be trusted?: ARCHIE: [Archie is explaining to Lionel why blacks shouldn't move into the neighborhood] They ain’t gonna be happy here. What are they...


                                • olegt wrote in Can a moral relativist be trusted?: MikeGene: You are admitting that your opposition was rooted in ignorance and propped up by stereotype. Ignorance? Sure. Stereotype? Not so sure....


                                    • MikeGene wrote in Can a moral relativist be trusted?: Velikovskys Does Myers run a science blog? Is Uncommon Descent a science blog? They both seem about the same. Yes, PZ’s blog is about the same...


                                        • MikeGene wrote in Can a moral relativist be trusted?: My problem was not knowing about Collins’s highly nuanced position on embryonic stem cells and on the question of the beginning of life....


                                            • velikovskys wrote in Can a moral relativist be trusted?: AOFM I said nothing of the sort Apologies, you do view the fringe gnus as a threat to organized religion. That is surprising. I just think...


                                                • hrun0815 wrote in Can a moral relativist be trusted?: “Atheists are among the most mistrusted groups in America not because they lack moral grounding, but because they are IRRATIONAL.R...


                                                    • chunkdz wrote in Can a moral relativist be trusted?: ARCHIE: [Lionel has brought over some food] Let me guess: pork chops? LIONEL: Uh yeah, we was gonna bring some watermelon too, but they’s...


                                                        • olegt wrote in Can a moral relativist be trusted?: Bizarro world. Conservatives are rooting for embryonic stem cells. What’s next? We are all Keynesians? Kumbaya? :mrgreen:


                                                            • chunkdz wrote in Can a moral relativist be trusted?: I had no idea critical thinking is such powerful stuff. Can it cure cancer, too? I can imagine a stem cell therapy which might directly result...


                                                                • olegt wrote in Can a moral relativist be trusted?: I had no idea critical thinking is such powerful stuff. Can it cure cancer, too?


                                                                    • chunkdz wrote in Can a moral relativist be trusted?: Olegt: Was I out of tune to think that an evangelical Christian should be an opponent of embryonic stem-cell research? Is it really that hard...


                                                                        • olegt wrote in Can a moral relativist be trusted?: AOFM: I’ve written this before, but after observing your illogical, non-scientific, and frankly bigoted approach to these subjects,...


                                                                            • olegt wrote in Can a moral relativist be trusted?: MikeGene: On one hand, you are quick to attack a highly accomplished and widely respected scientist, arguing he was unfit to head the NIH, all...


                                                                                • angryoldfatman wrote in Can a moral relativist be trusted?: olegt wrote: Oh, you had the courage to amend your silly comment. I am now weakly rejecting militant atheism, but still a gnu wannabe....


                                                                                    • chunkdz wrote in Can a moral relativist be trusted?: On one hand, you are quick to attack a highly accomplished and widely respected scientist, arguing he was unfit to head the NIH, all because of...


                                                                                        • MikeGene wrote in Can a moral relativist be trusted?: 1. I objected to your characterization of him as a crackpot. I did not defend his militant atheism. In fact, I distanced myself from militant...


                                                                                            • olegt wrote in Can a moral relativist be trusted?: Sorry, chunk. I didn’t mean to hurt you.


                                                                                                • olegt wrote in Can a moral relativist be trusted?: AOFM: EDIT: IOW, your Herculean efforts in trying to separate Myers from militant atheism (while weakly rejecting militant atheism by describing...


                                                                                                    • chunkdz wrote in Can a moral relativist be trusted?: That was hurtful. Why do you hurt people, olegt?


                                                                                                        • angryoldfatman wrote in Can a moral relativist be trusted?: olegt wrote: Here is another brilliant mind conflating creationism with Christianity. You’ve been drinking ethylene glycol again....


                                                                                                            • olegt wrote in Can a moral relativist be trusted?: Here is another brilliant mind conflating creationism with Christianity. You weren’t a straight-A student, amirite, angryoldfatman?


                                                                                                                • angryoldfatman wrote in Can a moral relativist be trusted?: olegt wrote: This is silly on a couple of levels. I objected to your characterization of him as a crackpot. I did not defend his...


                                                                                                                    • Guts wrote in Climate Summit: I was super duper cereal. EXCELCIOR


                                                                                                                        • olegt wrote in Can a moral relativist be trusted?: MikeGene wrote: It’s about the evidence, Olegt. When a Gnu leader jokes about kicking his students in the balls, what did you do? You defended...


                                                                                                                            • chunkdz wrote in Climate Summit: Firefighter: “Is that a Pig… bear… man?” Al Gore: “No stupid… It’s Manbearpig.”


                                                                                                                                • angryoldfatman wrote in Can a moral relativist be trusted?: velikovskys wrote: And yet you’re here not disagreeing, just telling me to stfu.I will consider your thoughtful advice. I said...


                                                                                                                                    • chunkdz wrote in Can a moral relativist be trusted?: Mike Gene: It’s about the evidence, Olegt. When a Gnu leader jokes about kicking his students in the balls, what did you do? You defended the...


                                                                                                                                        • Guts wrote in Climate Summit: Has this guy read the IPCC AR4 report


                                                                                                                                            • velikovskys wrote in Can a moral relativist be trusted?: velikovskys Actually I think the Giants may be peaking at the right time, Eli Manning is always dangerous mike gene It’s about the...


                                                                                                                                                • velikovskys wrote in Can a moral relativist be trusted?: hrun0815, It would have been sufficient if you had used the proper code (great, spot-on analyses) Flawless


                                                                                                                                                    • velikovskys wrote in Can a moral relativist be trusted?: angryold And yet you’re here, tilting at windmills. So your argument is since I personally don’t believe that existence of...


                                                                                                                                                        • MikeGene wrote in Can a moral relativist be trusted?: Don’t blame me. You have confused yourself by insisting that hrun and I were gnus. It’s about the evidence, Olegt. When a Gnu leader...


                                                                                                                                                            • hrun0815 wrote in Can a moral relativist be trusted?: Warning to hrun and olegt: The accommodationist traitor Hoffman continues to poke fun of Gnu leaders and that will likely upset you. So it...


                                                                                                                                                                • hrun0815 wrote in Can a moral relativist be trusted?: Remember how you rushed to the Gnu’s defense? Aeeehh, no. I do not. I remember criticizing what I thought were bad arguments. I don’t...


                                                                                                                                                                    • olegt wrote in Can a moral relativist be trusted?: MikeGene: Now you are confusing me. You are now claiming you are a gnu? Don’t blame me. You have confused yourself by insisting that hrun...


                                                                                                                                                                        • angryoldfatman wrote in Can a moral relativist be trusted?: velikovskys wrote: So we agree? Both scenarios are unlikely. Much to do about nothing. And yet you’re here, tilting at windmills....


                                                                                                                                                                            • MikeGene wrote in Can a moral relativist be trusted?: Hrun, Remember how you rushed to the Gnu’s defense? Mike, you really think that your link is ‘a great takedown of the Gnu...


                                                                                                                                                                                • MikeGene wrote in Can a moral relativist be trusted?: Rjosephhoffmann does not disappoint. Warning to hrun and olegt: The accommodationist traitor Hoffman continues to poke fun of Gnu leaders and...


                                                                                                                                                                                    • hrun0815 wrote in Can a moral relativist be trusted?: Now you are confusing me. You had decided many posts ago that olegt was a Gnu. He is now confirming that you were right. Why would that be...


                                                                                                                                                                                        • MikeGene wrote in Can a moral relativist be trusted?: Now you are confusing me. You are now claiming you are a gnu? Is that why you defended Myers when he went to another college to joke about...


                                                                                                                                                                                            • olegt wrote in Can a moral relativist be trusted?: Yes, Mike, we’re all Gnu Atheists now. And you are an apologist for creationism. So there.


                                                                                                                                                                                                • olegt wrote in Can a moral relativist be trusted?: chunk: Lol! I’m sorry, did you think I considered you to be “dangerousR 21;? Chunk, I didn’t think you were so dense. Karen...


                                                                                                                                                                                                    • MikeGene wrote in Can a moral relativist be trusted?: This is just dorky. I have said elsewhere that I disagree with the Gnus’ methods. In this very thread, I declared their military tactics...


                                                                                                                                                                                                        • chunkdz wrote in Can a moral relativist be trusted?: Olegt: It isn’t just Gnu Atheists who view the God of Old Testament as jealous and vindictive. Karen Armstrong, in her book… Ms....


                                                                                                                                                                                                            • olegt wrote in Can a moral relativist be trusted?: chunk, It isn’t just Gnu Atheists who view the God of Old Testament as jealous and vindictive. Karen Armstrong, in her book A history of...


                                                                                                                                                                                                                • velikovskys wrote in Can a moral relativist be trusted?: angry old As an aside, I’m Christian and never heard of the word “Dominionist&# 8221; until five or six years ago, and then...


                                                                                                                                                                                                                    • chunkdz wrote in Can a moral relativist be trusted?: Olegt: I have said elsewhere that I disagree with the Gnus’ methods. ROFL! Oh, brother! C’mon, olegt. We all just saw you visit a...


                                                                                                                                                                                                                        • hrun0815 wrote in Can a moral relativist be trusted?: Act 3, scene 2? Does that help? No need for help. One reminder is sufficient.


                                                                                                                                                                                                                            • olegt wrote in Can a moral relativist be trusted?: MikeGene: Nah, you only think I am so obsessed because you are so hypersensitive when the Gnus are criticized or laughed at. This is just dorky....


                                                                                                                                                                                                                                • chunkdz wrote in Can a moral relativist be trusted?: hrun: Thanks. This was yet again a nice reminder how useful it is to answer any of your posts. In my absence I had forgotten. Act 3, scene 2?...


                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    • chunkdz wrote in Can a moral relativist be trusted?: Olegt: So let’s pretend, for a moment, that I am a Gnu. We could do that. Or we could simply look at the incredibly bigoted things you...


                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        • angryoldfatman wrote in Can a moral relativist be trusted?: velikovskys wrote: How does this .001% [Gnus who “want a world where there's no religion"] seek to achieve this want? Harsh words and...


                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            • hrun0815 wrote in Can a moral relativist be trusted?: Maybe I was thinking of that scene from Hamlet. Thanks. This was yet again a nice reminder how useful it is to answer any of your posts. In my...


                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                • hrun0815 wrote in Can a moral relativist be trusted?: Hrun, feel free to join me. Let’s terrorize the stupid religionists! They deserve to be mocked! Well, I there is nothing to join: Mike...

Climate Summit

Posted in Climate Change on January 3rd, 2012 by chunkdz

"They talk the language of science, but it is really a post-God religion that rejects relativist materialism."

-BBC reporter Michael Buerke

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Can a moral relativist be trusted?

Posted in Morality on December 27th, 2011 by Techne

Trust is a pretty important factor that plays a positive role in a functioning society. To trust someone basically entails that you can rely on the actions of another person to conform to certain virtues or expectations while basically abandoning your own control over the situation.

Let’s look at two examples of where trust plays an important role. Firstly, you have money to do empirical research. You provide the money to a scientific researcher with a good track record and you ask him to do research on the clinical effects of a certain compound. You trust the scientist to use your money in such a manner that will result in good results. You are basically abandoning your own control over the situation (doing your own research) and transferring control to another. The outcome is unknown, but you trust that it will end in a certain manner i.e. good results.

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Fear

Posted in The New Atheists on December 16th, 2011 by chunkdz

"I fear dying, of dying I feel a sense of waste about it"

-Christopher Hitchens

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The Higgs Field and the Ether

Posted in Metatalk, Physics on December 14th, 2011 by Techne

News is filtering through that there might be a Higgs boson.  This appears to imply that there is a Higgs field that provides mass to anything. And this Higgs field is labelled by some as the Higgs-ether and this apparently has the potential to clash with general relativity.

Interesting times, maybe Aristotle was right about there being an ether or a "fifth element" or a quintessence? Any physicists out there that want to comment on the implications of the Higgs field and how it mixes or does not mix with general relativity?

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The Ultimate Machine

Posted in Information on December 6th, 2011 by chunkdz

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ID is dead.

Posted in Intelligent Design on November 30th, 2011 by chunkdz

It's official.

Good luck, and please clean out your desks.

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Fitness: A Battle is Raging

Posted in Biology, Causality, Evolution, Natural Selection, Teleology on November 5th, 2011 by Techne

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On Heresy

Posted in Climate Change, Design Inferences, Eugenics, Hoax, Scandals, Science, Shoddy Science on November 2nd, 2011 by chunkdz

Matt Ridley on why we need heretics.

HT: WUWT

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Reason Based Morality

Posted in Bioethics, Eugenics on October 25th, 2011 by chunkdz

Witness reason based morality in action.

China's "One Child Policy" is a very reasonable solution to overpopulation, which makes it reasonable to value males over females, which makes it reasonable to abort females in pregnancy up to late term, which makes it reasonable for society to care very little for the death of a small Chinese female.

All very reasonable.

HT: voxday

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Richard Dawkins Throws Harris, Krauss, Hitchens et. al. Under The Bus

Posted in Richard Dawkins on October 20th, 2011 by Guts

Would you shake hands with a man who could write stuff like that? Would you share a platform with him? I wouldn't, and I won't. Even if I were not engaged to be in London on the day in question, I would be proud to leave that chair in Oxford eloquently empty.

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Colbert vs Pinker

Posted in Philosophy, Religion on October 19th, 2011 by Guts

The Colbert Report Mon – Thurs 11:30pm / 10:30c
Steven Pinker
www.colbertnation.com
Colbert Report Full Episodes Political Humor & Satire Blog Video Archive
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Eyes Wide Shut

Posted in Creationism, Evolution, Front-loading on October 14th, 2011 by Guts


Jonathan M. at evolution news recently criticized the hypothesis of a monophyletic origin of the eyes.

The common evolutionary rationalization of this phenomenon is to posit that the gene in question had some kind of propensity for promoting the development of the respective structure. But this solution appears dubious, particularly in the case of the even more spectacular example of eye development…

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Seeing is Believing

Posted in Brain on October 13th, 2011 by chunkdz

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Open Thread: Oh Deer…

Posted in Humor on October 12th, 2011 by Techne

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My Name Is LUCA

Posted in Front-loading, MikeGenes World on October 6th, 2011 by Guts

Scientists call it LUCA, the Last Universal Common Ancestor, but they don't know much about this great-grandparent of all living things. Many believe LUCA was little more than a crude assemblage of molecular parts, a chemical soup out of which evolution gradually constructed more complex forms. Some scientists still debate whether it was even a cell.

New evidence suggests that LUCA was a sophisticated organism after all, with a complex structure recognizable as a cell, researchers report. Their study appears in the journal Biology Direct.

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The study lends support to a hypothesis that LUCA may have been more complex even than the simplest organisms alive today, said James Whitfield, a professor of entomology at Illinois and a co-author on the study.

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