Archive for January, 2010

« Previous Entries
Next Page »

On Falk's Response to Meyer

Posted in Books, Natural Selection, Origin of Life on January 31st, 2010 by Bradford

I do not believe, as Dr. Meyer asserts, that he is unqualified—quite the opposite. He is likely more qualified as a philosopher than I am as a scientist. Furthermore, I guarantee you that if I was venturing into his discipline, I would have little of value to say. Dr. Meyer has ventured into my discipline, biology. He is not highly qualified as a biologist, but he’s ventured in anyway. Fair enough. Since he is a great communicator, we should be able to analyze the quality of his arguments.

here

It should be pointed out at this juncture that the biological points made by Darrel Falk in his exchanges with Meyer are easily understood by most freshman students in biology. I have a daughter who is a freshman and an intending major in biology who has no difficulty following Falk's points. Of course Falk might maintain that his deeper understanding would confound both Meyer and my daughter and account for any divergence of views but in what follows I'll show that to be a mistaken assumption.

In Meyer’s response to my review, he made a very strong statement. I am amazed that someone who is really smart and equally sincere could make it, but here it is

First, intelligent agents have demonstrated the capacity to produce large amounts of functionally specified information (especially in a digital form). Second, no undirected chemical process has demonstrated this power. Hence, intelligent design provides the best—most causally adequate—explanation for the origin of the information necessary to produce the first life from simpler non-living chemicals. In other words, intelligent design is the only explanation that cites a cause known to have the capacity to produce the key effect in question. (Emphasis added)

Read the rest of this entry »

16 Comments »

Slicing and Dicing Falk: Part Two

Posted in Books, Origin of Life, RNA on January 31st, 2010 by Bradford

Stephen Meyer, author of Signature in the Cell wrote Response to Darrel Falk’s Review of Signature in the Cell. A prior post focused on the first few paragraphs. Continuing with the article:

Falk first cites a scientific study published last spring after my book was in press. The paper, authored by University of Manchester chemist John Sutherland and two colleagues, does partially address one of the many outstanding difficulties associated the RNA world, the most popular current theory about the origin of the first life.

Starting with a 3-carbon sugar (D-gylceraldehyde), and another molecule called 2-aminooxazole, Sutherland successfully synthesized a 5-carbon sugar in association with a base and a phosphate group. In other words, he produced a ribonucleotide. The scientific press justifiably heralded this as a breakthrough in pre-biotic chemistry because previously chemists had thought (as I noted in my book) that the conditions under which ribose and bases could be synthesized were starkly incompatible with each other.

Nevertheless, Sutherland’s work does not refute the central argument of my book, nor does it support the claim that it is premature to conclude that only intelligent agents have demonstrated the power to produce functionally-specified information. If anything, it illustrates the reverse.

Very true. Sutherland's work is causally inadequate as an explanatory model for the issues raised in Meyer's book.

Read the rest of this entry »

8 Comments »

Intelligent Slime Mold

Posted in Random Stuff on January 30th, 2010 by Bilbo

"Reasons to Believe" e-mailed this one to me, and I had to pass it on.

3 Comments »

Too Hot to Handle

Posted in Scandals, The Critics on January 29th, 2010 by Bradford

In two prior posts we witness two individuals sympathetic to intelligent design attacked based on their views. John A. Designer said it well in this comment. JAD:

Even if Berlinski is a crank and Meyer is unqualified, as olegt and Falk respectively claim, it doesn’t change the fact that there are devastating criticisms of the so-called “RNA world” or “RNA first” hypothesis. Indeed, if neither Berlinski or Meyer had said anything on the subject you would still have the criticisms to seriously challenge the viability of the hypothesis.

JAD makes a good point but as I thought about the criticism I was reminded that whether or not someone is the object of degrading comments can relate to what it is their arguments or cited data are intended to support. For example, would Professors Olegt and Falk and notorious critic Matzke like to continue their critiques against scientists who merit some bashing. Let's see. Dr Rajendra Pachauri admitted that a 2007 report, indicating that Himalayan glaciers could disappear by 2035, lacked a scientific basis and that its inclusion in a report resulted from improper procedures.

HT: Clare

Read the rest of this entry »

18 Comments »

Slicing and Dicing Falk: Part One

Posted in Books, Origin of Life, The Critics on January 28th, 2010 by Bradford

Stephen Meyer, author of Signature in the Cell wrote Response to Darrel Falk’s Review of Signature in the Cell. From the article:

Nevertheless, in his recent review on the Biologos website, Prof. Darrel Falk characterizes me as merely a well-meaning, but ultimately unqualified, philosopher and religious believer who lacks the scientific expertise to evaluate origin-of-life research and who, in any case, has overlooked the promise of recent pre-biotic simulation experiments.

I've seen no evidence that Meyer does not understand the biochemistry or cellular processes of which he alludes to in Signature in the Cell. I have not seen anyone point out specific errors that would indicate a lack of understanding. Citing the promise of recent experiments refers to a subjective assessment of what might be rather than confirmation of what is. It's the difference between speculation and solid scientific theory.

Read the rest of this entry »

17 Comments »

Berlinski stirring the pot

Posted in Origin of Life, RNA on January 27th, 2010 by Bradford

Introducing David Berlinski:

Having with indignation rejected the assumption that the creation of life required an intelligent design, Mr Fletcher has persuaded himself that it has proceeded instead by means of various chemical scenarios.

These scenarios all require intelligent intervention. In his animadversions, Mr Fletcher suggests nothing so much as a man disposed to denounce alcohol while sipping sherry.

Heh, heh. Vintage Berlinski.

Read the rest of this entry »

109 Comments »

Gravity and seven questions

Posted in Science on January 26th, 2010 by Bradford

A New Scientist article lists seven questions about gravity here. Each question links to another distinct article.

Leave A Comment »

Thank you, Professor Hitchens

Posted in Random Stuff, Religion on January 26th, 2010 by Bilbo

Thank you Victor Reppert for linking to Luke Muelhauser's What if God existed?, an interview with Christopher Hitchens.
Read the rest of this entry »

9 Comments »

A Lesson in Self-Deception

Posted in The Critics on January 23rd, 2010 by Bradford

I'm an atheist and scientist. I don't believe anybody without good evidence.

Who said that? The sentiment is fairly commonplace in forums where intelligent design is discussed. Those people of reason are amazing are they not? They remind me of Mr. Spock wannabes. So logical and sciency and unlike people of faith, right? Here's the link.

PZ does not believe anyone without good evidence. Unlike many of us he has never been short changed in a business or consumer transaction because he is no doubt scrupulous in getting solid evidence before making a purchase. It must be nice to be able to support all your beliefs with good evidence. Did he believe the claims about transparency in government or vote for the one who promised it while thinking the promise insincere? And PZ, remember this?

The movie has been criticized by those interviewees who are critics of intelligent design (P.Z. Myers, Dawkins,[68] Shermer,[30] and National Center for Science Education head Eugenie Scott), who say they were misled into participating by being asked to be interviewed for a film named

here

7 Comments »

Menage a Trois: Scientific Authority; Limited Resources; Expediency

Posted in Morality, Politics, Science on January 23rd, 2010 by Bradford

Remember the death panels? Sure you do. Sarah Palin running off at the mouth. Ya know how those people are- either dishonest or dumb. There is no such thing embodied in any legislative initiative… or is there? Government Control Leads to Denial of Care suggests that the very nature of the beast lends itself to rationed care; particularly for the elderly. Quoting:

From the Daily Mail, October 13: "A grandfather who beat cancer was wrongly told the disease had returned and left to die at a hospice which pioneered a controversial 'death pathway.' Doctors said there was nothing more they could do for 76-year- old Jack Jones, and his family claim he was denied food, water, and medication except painkillers. He died within two weeks. But tests after his death found that his cancer had not come back and he was in fact suffering from pneumonia brought on by a chest infection."

Doctors said so. Jump back. Who are you to dispute an authority? Especially one so well versed in the science of medicine. There are pioneers in everything including pathways to death. The human mind is marvelously innovative. Now we know two things. There was no death panel. We also know that people die and they die in America which has a different system of health care and one which favors those with better health plans or simply any plan at all. But there is something else worth looking at. Reasoning Through the Rationing of End-of-Life Care is a Science Daily article. From the article:

ScienceDaily (2010-01-21) — Acknowledging that the idea of rationing health care, particularly at the end of life, may incite too much vitriol to get much rational consideration, a professor of neurology called for the start of a discussion.

There we go again. Professor of neurology. Authority. Oh well, we listen to Professor Olegt don't we? John Freeman, M.D., Lederer Professor Emeritus of Pediatric Neurology and a faculty member of the Johns Hopkins Berman Institute of Bioethics, authored an opinion piece this very month in the Journal of Medical Ethics, which was directed at the Obama administration. It asks Obama "to consider rationing end-of-life care as an initial step towards healthcare reform." Now he did not use the term death panel but…

HT: Paul

Read the rest of this entry »

31 Comments »

Truth and Science

Posted in Random Stuff on January 22nd, 2010 by Bradford

Truthfulness in science should be an iron law from Medical Hypotheses.

12 Comments »

19th Century Evangelical Scholars, Old Earth and Evolution

Posted in Religion on January 21st, 2010 by Bilbo

Thanks to Victor Reppert at dangerousidea.blogspot.com for linking to E.T.Babinski's very interesting article. Babinski writes:

Many evangelical Christians today suppose that Bible believers have always been in favor of a "young-universe" and "creationism." However, as any student of the history of geology (and religion) knows, by the 1850s all competent evangelical Christian geologists agreed that the earth must be extremely old, and that geological investigations did not support that the Flood "in the days of Noah" literally "covered the whole earth."

Read the rest of this entry »

20 Comments »

How Will the War End?

Posted in Humor, MikeGenes World on January 20th, 2010 by Bilbo

Not that war.

This war.

Read the rest of this entry »

5 Comments »

Will Mutation Clusters Pass Muster?

Posted in Mutations on January 19th, 2010 by Bradford

Are mutations truly random? is an online article of The Scientist. Genomes are not equal opportunity hosts of genetic mutations. Some genomic regions are more hospitable to mutations than others. The so called hot spots. This has piqued my curiosity as well as the curiosity of others. Why is this so? A study published in Proceedings of the Royal Society B calls attention to some intriguing ideas.

Even small SNP clusters are non-randomly distributed: is this evidence of mutational non-independence? is a paper authored by William Amos. The paper begins by noting that single nucleotide polymorphisms (SNPs) are very non-randomly distributed in the human genome. SNPs result when changes occur to one of the four nucleotides- A, T, C and G- within a sequence (if interested read details at the link). Amos was interested in exploring whether or not the likelihood of mutations increases with proximity to existing SNPs. From the paper:

HT: Clare

Read the rest of this entry »

3 Comments »

1000 Architects and Engineers

Posted in Random Stuff on January 18th, 2010 by Bilbo

There are now 1,000 architects and engineers who have signed a petition, saying they doubt the official version of events of 9/11, and calling for a new, independent investigation that considers the possibility of controlled demolitions. When I first discovered their site, in September of 2008, they had 470 A&Es. So it's grown a bit. Their two hour length video can be seen here.

Read the rest of this entry »

142 Comments »

« Previous Entries
Next Page »
  • You are currently browsing the Telic Thoughts weblog archives for January, 2010.

  • Featured Books

    The Plausibility of Life By Marc W. Kirschner and John C. Gerhart

  • The Design Matrix: A Consilience of Clues by Mike Gene


  • Pages

    • About Us
    • bipod
    • Bradford
    • Chunkdz
    • Deuce
    • Nullasalus
    • Techne
    • The Banned List
  • Categories

    • Animal Rights Extremism (40)
    • Approaches (20)
    • Astrobiology (6)
    • Bioethics (35)
    • Biology (213)
    • Books (25)
    • Brain (53)
    • Bunny Fright Week (7)
    • Cancer (1)
    • Causality (7)
    • Cell (32)
    • Climate Change (4)
    • Computer Science (9)
    • Convergent Evolution (7)
    • Cosmology (14)
    • Creationism (59)
    • Critical Thinking (5)
    • Culture Wars (25)
    • Design Inferences (43)
    • DNA Repair (4)
    • Engineering (19)
    • Eugenics (26)
    • Evidence (44)
    • Evo-Devo (12)
    • Evolution (315)
    • Evolutionary Psychology (14)
    • Fine-tuning (16)
    • Friday Quote (33)
    • Front-loading (172)
    • Gene's Gems (12)
    • Genetic Code (8)
    • Genome (12)
    • Guest Post (17)
    • Hating Mike (1)
    • Henry Rollins Award (3)
    • History (34)
    • Hoax (2)
    • Humor (181)
    • Information (12)
    • Intelligent Design (542)
    • Irreducible Complexity (28)
    • Junk DNA (4)
    • Just For Fun (31)
    • Law (2)
    • Media (95)
    • Meeting of Minds (9)
    • Memory Hole (1)
    • Metatalk (50)
    • MikeGenes World (22)
    • Modern Myths (9)
    • Morality (10)
    • Mutations (8)
    • Nanotechnology (2)
    • Natural Selection (32)
    • Nature (24)
    • Nature of Science (95)
    • Origin of Life (71)
    • Paul Mirecki (16)
    • Peer Review (12)
    • Peter Singer (3)
    • Philosophy (94)
    • Philosophy of Mind (40)
    • Physics (12)
    • Politics (18)
    • Post-Wedge World (21)
    • Proteins (14)
    • Quantum (6)
    • Quote Mining (9)
    • Random Stuff (275)
    • Religion (201)
    • Repost (34)
    • Richard Dawkins (105)
    • RNA (18)
    • Scandals (4)
    • Scholasticism (5)
    • School (62)
    • Science (205)
    • Scientific Boundaries (11)
    • Scientism (1)
    • Self-organization (2)
    • Shoddy Science (33)
    • Simulation Argument (2)
    • Stereotypes (7)
    • Systems Biology (3)
    • Teleology (9)
    • The Critics (261)
    • The Debate (326)
    • The Design Matrix (75)
    • The Duck (8)
    • The New Atheists (89)
    • The Rabbit (239)
    • Threatiness (85)
  • Evolution

    • Anthropology Weblog
    • Charles Darwin on the web
    • Darwin@home
    • Genetic Code Evolution
    • Kenneth Miller
    • NCSE
    • Stephen Jay Gould Archive
    • Talk Reason
    • Talk.Origins Archive
    • The Loom
    • The Panda's Thumb
    • Tree of Life
    • Was Darwin Wrong?
  • blogroll

    • Intelligently Sequenced
    • The Design Matrix
  • Teleology

    • Akilli Tasarim
    • An Evangelical Dialogue on Evolution
    • BioLogos
    • Edward Feser
    • Evolution Engineered
    • Evolution Oriented
    • Evolution und Schöpfung
    • Exiled from Groggs
    • ISCID EoSaP
    • Real Physics
    • Reality Cheque
    • Robin Collins
    • Teleomechanist
    • Telic Meme
    • The American Scientific Affiliation
    • The Creation of an Evolutionist
    • Thinking Christian
    • Thought Provoker
    • Wonders For Oyarsa
  • People With Interesting Ideas

    • Albert de Roos
    • Bradley Monton
    • Cell Intelligence
    • Darwin or Design
    • James Shapiro
    • Michael Syvanen
    • Panspermia
    • Paul Davies
  • Anti-Teleology

    • Center for Naturalism
    • Pharyngula
    • Richard Dawkins
  • Archives

    • May 2013
    • February 2013
    • November 2012
    • October 2012
    • September 2012
    • August 2012
    • July 2012
    • June 2012
    • May 2012
    • April 2012
    • March 2012
    • February 2012
    • January 2012
    • December 2011
    • November 2011
    • October 2011
    • September 2011
    • August 2011
    • July 2011
    • June 2011
    • May 2011
    • April 2011
    • March 2011
    • February 2011
    • January 2011
    • December 2010
    • November 2010
    • October 2010
    • September 2010
    • August 2010
    • July 2010
    • June 2010
    • May 2010
    • April 2010
    • March 2010
    • February 2010
    • January 2010
    • December 2009
    • November 2009
    • October 2009
    • September 2009
    • August 2009
    • July 2009
    • June 2009
    • May 2009
    • April 2009
    • March 2009
    • February 2009
    • January 2009
    • December 2008
    • November 2008
    • October 2008
    • September 2008
    • August 2008
    • July 2008
    • June 2008
    • May 2008
    • April 2008
    • March 2008
    • February 2008
    • January 2008
    • December 2007
    • November 2007
    • October 2007
    • September 2007
    • August 2007
    • July 2007
    • June 2007
    • May 2007
    • April 2007
    • March 2007
    • February 2007
    • January 2007
    • December 2006
    • November 2006
    • October 2006
    • September 2006
    • August 2006
    • July 2006
    • June 2006
    • May 2006
    • April 2006
    • March 2006
    • February 2006
    • January 2006
    • December 2005
    • November 2005
    • October 2005
    • September 2005
    • August 2005
    • July 2005
    • June 2005
    • May 2005
    • Meta

      • Register
      • Log in

Telic Thoughts is proudly powered by WordPress
Hosting provided by TopSoftware4Download.com .

Entries (RSS) and Comments (RSS).